Paladin D Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 If that clone were to have a soul, does this mean that man can create man, artifically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Yes, that clone would have a soul. But just because cloning could bring forth a human person with a soul doesn't mean that it SHOULD be done, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted May 18, 2004 Author Share Posted May 18, 2004 Though some would say that if a clone were to have a soul, man is [b]"playing God"[/b]. Thus having power to bring life. But, I believe cloning will be impossible... because I doubt God will allow man to create bodies with souls. Therefore, if God were to prevent a soul from entering a clone... the clone will not function because it has no soul. Soul = Life. There are those however, will go as far as to say that the Anti-Christ is promoting cloning so he and his demons can possess their bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 I agree that man is playing God if he successfully clones anything. However, while God doesn't want us cloning, that doesn't mean that it would be unsuccessful for anyone who tried it. I mean, God doesn't want us using in-vitro fertilization to have kids, but couples DO succeed at conceiving in that manner. But of course, we all know the end doesn't justify the means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader_4 Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 It would have a soul out of the good mercy of God. That would be how i view it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 If one were to be cloned, his life would not have been created by a man, but God. Man cannot create life--only God can. So, therefore, a clone's life, created by God, would have a soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulls Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 it's not the clone's fault that it was cloned, so God would have mercy on it and love it....that would be my guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 (edited) Man can only create the "home".....the body. It is God who breathes life into everyone and gives them a soul. I don't think it can be done 100% successfully, but it shouldn't be attempted either. Edited May 18, 2004 by Joseph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasJis Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Just because mankind can improperly use the gifts and powers God gives us to create life (conception via rape, promiscuous sex, cloning, etc.), does not mean we have ownership of the gift and powers, they still come from God and exist only at God's will. When mankind can create Matter or Energy by the power of his will only, then we would have the creative power of God. Even Satan is limited to the people, souls, matter, and energy that God alone caused to exist. A clone would have a soul. Sin of pride, once again, would disrupt and warp the gifts God gave mankind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 I have to disagree, it's blasphemy. Man setting himself up above everything that is God. It wouldnt be a human being it would be a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 [quote name='MC Just' date='May 18 2004, 08:31 PM'] I have to disagree, it's blasphemy. Man setting himself up above everything that is God. It wouldnt be a human being it would be a monster. [/quote] It would be blasphemy, true, but no, the Church says that even cloned people would have souls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 I dont understand that, I really don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader1234 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 [quote]I have to disagree, it's blasphemy. Man setting himself up above everything that is God. It wouldnt be a human being it would be a monster. [/quote] MC be Careful here... I think of cloning this way. Cloning is like artificial insemination... just because the parents make a mistake, the child surely is not at fault. To say any 'child' is a monster is very sketchy to me. Of course the Child is a Child of God. God will not refuse a child based on the abomination of his creation! Just as God does not reject any children born out of wedlock, he would not reject any other children who's origin is not pure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovechrist Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 indeed, the clone would have a soul.... because God has mercy on the human, no matter how he was created.... but i agree with MC that it is blasphemy, trying to be God-like... course we can never accomplish what the joke says (i'm trying to remember it).. a doctor was studying in his lab when all of a sudden, he looks up at the ceiling and shouts "AHA! God, i can do ANYTHING you can do!" this alerts God, and he replies, "really... say, can you create life out of dirt?" the scientist thinks for a moment, and then says, "sure i can!", and he rushes out the door, scoops a bucketful of dirt off the ground, and runs back into the lab, and starts putting the dirt in the form he wants on a table. God chuckles, and then starts cracking up in laughter. the scientist asks him "why are you laughing? i'm doing what you asked me if i can do!!" God replies-- "ok... but that's my dirt! go find your own.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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