BG45 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1344039879' post='2462462'] It's interesting that one of the most prominent framers of the constitution didn't understand what the Framers intended for the constitution to mean. [/quote] Your sarcasm reminds me of having to listen to a Supreme Court case, forget which one, but it was within the past decade. As I listened to the oral arguments one lawyer tried to inform one of the Justices that he didn't understand the meaning behind the opinion that was being cited. The Justice replied that he understood the meaning of the opinion as he was the one who had written it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1344044545' post='2462502'] Yes they do. They're trying to get the attention of rural conservatives whites who don't their their hard-earned money going to a bunch a lazy, ghetto dwelling blacks. I hear it all the time when I'm out stomping around in beautiful eastern North Carolina. Welcome to the wonderful world of right-wing politics. By the way: [url="http://www.factcheck.org/2012/01/newts-faulty-food-stamp-claim/"]http://www.factcheck...od-stamp-claim/[/url] [/quote][quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1344044545' post='2462502'] Yes they do. They're trying to get the attention of rural conservatives whites who don't their their hard-earned money going to a bunch a lazy, ghetto dwelling blacks. I hear it all the time when I'm out stomping around in beautiful eastern North Carolina. Welcome to the wonderful world of right-wing politics. By the way: [url="http://www.factcheck.org/2012/01/newts-faulty-food-stamp-claim/"]http://www.factcheck...od-stamp-claim/[/url] [/quote] I really don't appreciate the implication that every conservative in the south is racist. Probably because I grew up in Alabama where a LOT of racism does happen and it is awful, but it is NOT every single southern conservative. If you want to make racism a factor, then you need to make a new thread. 14.7 million in 8 years vs 14.2 in three. The rate is increasing faster and THE GOAL IS TO GET IT TO INCREASE! The goal should be to get people OFF of assistance programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='missionseeker' timestamp='1344053238' post='2462558'] I really don't appreciate the implication that every conservative in the south is racist.[/QUOTE] I missed the part where I said that ever conservative in the south is racist. There is, however, a correlative relationship between being a conservative in the south and being a racist. [QUOTE] Probably because I grew up in Alabama where a LOT of racism does happen and it is awful, but it is NOT every single southern conservative.[/QUOTE] This is a straw man. I never said that every single southern conservative is a racist. [QUOTE]If you want to make racism a factor, then you need to make a new thread.[/QUOTE] Why? [QUOTE]14.7 million in 8 years vs 14.2 in three.[/QUOTE] Yep. And when did this big sudden surge in foodstamp usage occur. I think it was sometime around the end of Bush's second term and the begining portion of Obama's. Hm. What happened during this timeframe? Did Bush and Obama suddenly start throwing out foodstamp cards? Or did the economy, you know, kind of explode? Maybe around 2008? I'm just spit-balling here. [QUOTE]The rate is increasing faster [/QUOTE] Actually, if you read that article, the rates are starting to fall off. [QUOTE]and THE GOAL IS TO GET IT TO INCREASE! [/QUOTE] In what political universe do you live where a President facing reelection [b]wants[/b] to be known as the President under whom foodstamp usage exploded? [QUOTE]The goal should be to get people OFF of assistance programs. [/quote] Yep. But back to the purpose of this spat. It is just infinity fascinating to me that the same racist rhetoric I see back in my part of the woods will suddenly appear, scrubbed of n-bombs, in formats like the one Groo presented and yet, amazingly, it has absolutely nothing to do with the remarkably similar racist rhetoric that occurs in conservative parts of the country. It's really quite amazing. This has nothing to do with race. And that's why I constantly hear right-wingers refer to Bush, under whom this boom began, as a food-stamp President. Oh, wait. I never hear that term associated with Bush. I hear plenty of complaints that Bush wasn't a 'true conservative' but for some reason that rhetoric which seems to be a somewhat sanitized version of typical racist rhetoric, is only applied to the black President. Hmmmm... Hey, what's this? [img]http://www.pleasegodno.com/uploads/obamabucks3.jpg[/img] Hm. It seems to be a more overtly racist, but thematically identical, version of the same format. Huh. What an interesting coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo the Wanderer Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 you spent way too long photoshopping that Hasan. the time would have been better spent performing a cranial-rectal extraction on yourself. just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God the Father Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Barack Obama is as white as he is black. Until the man is claimed in America's first racial draft, in honor of Dave Chappelle, I will never understand the significance of his mocha colored epidermis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1344136207' post='2462815'] you spent way too long photoshopping that Hasan. [/quote] That isn't photoshoped. It was on the news a bit ago. You can find it via google if you somehow missed it. [QUOTE] the time would have been better spent performing a cranial-rectal extraction on yourself. just sayin [/quote] LOLllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll You, are a pawn to a bunch of racist floopies. Which is quite sad! But you'll never accept it! Blahhahahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) [quote name='God the Father' timestamp='1344137839' post='2462828'] Barack Obama is as white as he is black. Until the man is claimed in America's first racial draft, in honor of Dave Chappelle, I will never understand the significance of his mocha colored epidermis. [/quote] You're either a vile propagandist or utterly ignorant of American racial history. Obama is, but historical American standards, a black man. The fact that you ignore this history is truly despicable and intellectually vapid. Or your just another ignorant northerner who is just genuinely ignorant to the workings of racism in the heartland of racism in America.. Edited August 5, 2012 by Hasan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God the Father Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1344137989' post='2462833'] You're either a vile propagandist or utterly ignorant of American racial history. Obama is, but historical American standards, a black man. The fact that you ignore this history is truly despicable and intellectually vapid. Or your just another ignorant northern conservative who is just genuinely ignorant to the workings of racism in the heartland of racism in America. [/quote] I just divided one part black by two total parts and got 50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='God the Father' timestamp='1344138394' post='2462834'] I just divided one part black by two total parts and got 50%. [/quote] That's not how blackness has **ever** been determined around here. I guess you really are just ignorant about racism and that's cute, but also sad because said ignorance empowers actual racists. The general standard in the south, particularly after the Civil War, is the one-drop rule. One drop of black blood makes an individual black. That's how it's been for a long, long time and that general trend continues today. Obama is a black man, by the historical standard and by the standard that continues to today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God the Father Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1344138850' post='2462840'] That's not how blackness has **ever** been determined around here. I guess you really are just ignorant about racism and that's cute, but also sad because said ignorance empowers actual racists. The general standard in the south, particularly after the Civil War, is the one-drop rule. One drop of black blood makes an individual black. That's how it's been for a long, long time and that general trend continues today. Obama is a black man, by the historical standard and by the standard that continues to today. [/quote] It seems that you may be the ignorant one, my friend, for Barack Obama is only [i]half[/i] black. He is a half-black, half-white man. I can reference a source if you require one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='God the Father' timestamp='1344139116' post='2462841'] It seems that you may be the ignorant one, my friend, for Barack Obama is only [i]half[/i] black. He is a half-black, half-white man. I can reference a source if you require one. [/quote] Oh my good golly, you are a frustrating. read what I just said, which is historical fact, and then look at your totally inept (to be generous!) response, and then try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God the Father Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1344139659' post='2462848'] Oh my good golly, you are a frustrating. [/quote] [img]http://starcraft2.hu/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/trollface.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='God the Father' timestamp='1344141307' post='2462856'] [img]http://starcraft2.hu/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/trollface.jpg[/img] [/quote] That's my hope. I'm Kierkegaardian that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Winchester Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1344039879' post='2462462'] It's interesting that one of the most prominent framers of the constitution didn't understand what the Framers intended for the constitution to mean. [/quote] I have no doubt it's what he wanted it to mean. He was a nationalist. Other framers rather disagreed with him. I've read some quotes here and there from the ratification conventions, but I've found a source online for them. Should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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