Hubertus Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Anyone have any advice on the best way to stay up-to-date with praise and worship? The youth minister at my parish is wanting me to start playing guitar for the youth and I need to expand my knowledge of what's good. I know what kind of songs we sang when I was in high school, but I remember telling some of my Protestant friends about it once and they said something to the effect of, "Oh pfft, those songs are so old! " I know being edgy isn't always important, but I wanted to keep the kids from having an experience like that. With p&w, you kinda have to stay new to keep from being cheesy.. lol Anyway, I was going to just fish through some of David Crowder and Matt Maher's newer stuff and see what I found, but I would appreciate your suggestions too. And the more Catholic the better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo the Wanderer Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 www.ocp.org Choose Christ series of music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 [quote name='Hubertus' timestamp='1342445969' post='2456033'] Anyone have any advice on the best way to stay up-to-date with praise and worship? The youth minister at my parish is wanting me to start playing guitar for the youth and I need to expand my knowledge of what's good. I know what kind of songs we sang when I was in high school, but I remember telling some of my Protestant friends about it once and they said something to the effect of, "Oh pfft, those songs are so old! " I know being edgy isn't always important, but I wanted to keep the kids from having an experience like that. With p&w, you kinda have to stay new to keep from being cheesy.. lol Anyway, I was going to just fish through some of David Crowder and Matt Maher's newer stuff and see what I found, but I would appreciate your suggestions too. And the more Catholic the better! [/quote] Hmm. I can help. I've been involved in leading P&W's in the past, and more importantly, I know people who basically do it for a living. I could get together some songs and get back to you. I can get the set lists they use for FOP's at FUS, I can get you that. I would assume we stay pretty up to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenciledOne Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Hillsong. (Ok, I know they aren't Catholic, but their songs P&Ws wise are pretty fantastic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 [quote name='ThePenciledOne' timestamp='1342455852' post='2456074'] Hillsong. (Ok, I know they aren't Catholic, but their songs P&Ws wise are pretty fantastic) [/quote] Agreed, with the caveat that you should check out the songs theology wise. There were some songs where we wouldn't play certain verses. I think usually they were pretty good, but just a warning. I would always suggest this though, no matter who the artist is. We weren't able to play one of Matt Maher's songs at Easter, because theologically it wasn't on point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenciledOne Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 [quote name='Amppax' timestamp='1342456102' post='2456076'] Agreed, with the caveat that you should check out the songs theology wise. There were some songs where we wouldn't play certain verses. I think usually they were pretty good, but just a warning. I would always suggest this though, no matter who the artist is. We weren't able to play one of Matt Maher's songs at Easter, because theologically it wasn't on point. [/quote] I think if you over think music that much it tends to lose it's meaning haha. But I mean I've never led music ministry. A household brother of mine led the FOPs a couple years back and he loved Hillsong/Hillson United dearly, because they understand worship in a way that few Christian artists know today. So, maybe I'm biased, but then I think we place to much reason into worship, when the Holy Spirit is guiding along anyway. Not only that, if there's a grain(or more) of Truth in it, it shouldn't matter. I'm a fan of the original version of "How He Love's Us", not the David Crowder version, on these grounds for that precise reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubertus Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 [quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1342455213' post='2456070'] www.ocp.org Choose Christ series of music [/quote] Wow, that's amesome. Thanks! [quote name='ThePenciledOne' timestamp='1342455852' post='2456074'] Hillsong. (Ok, I know they aren't Catholic, but their songs P&Ws wise are pretty fantastic) [/quote] Ahh good idea, I'll have to give them a look. I know the Baptists I used to hang with were way into them. [quote name='Amppax' timestamp='1342455434' post='2456071'] Hmm. I can help. I've been involved in leading P&W's in the past, and more importantly, I know people who basically do it for a living. I could get together some songs and get back to you. I can get the set lists they use for FOP's at FUS, I can get you that. I would assume we stay pretty up to date. [/quote] That would be great!! If we were up to date with FUS we would definitely be doing good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJon16 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Some great things have already been posted, but I wanted to recommend one amesome resource. http://worshiptogether.com/ I'm the drummer in my youth groups band, and we use this site quite often. Most of the songs on here are the latest and greatest of the current Worship Music genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He is Risen! Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 [quote name='ThePenciledOne' timestamp='1342458792' post='2456096'] I think if you over think music that much it tends to lose it's meaning haha. But I mean I've never led music ministry. A household brother of mine led the FOPs a couple years back and he loved Hillsong/Hillson United dearly, because they understand worship in a way that few Christian artists know today. So, maybe I'm biased, but then I think we place to much reason into worship, when the Holy Spirit is guiding along anyway. Not only that, if there's a grain(or more) of Truth in it, it shouldn't matter. I'm a fan of the original version of "How He Love's Us", not the David Crowder version, on these grounds for that precise reason. [/quote] I think that it is extremely important that the songs/hymns we sing in church art theologically on point. The main reason is because for me at least, these songs pop into my head throughout the day, week, year, etc. This music should be extremely nourishing because of its sticking power in our minds. I can still remember the sings we were taught in preschool! Here's an article that might be helpful for you: [url="http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=8790"]http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=8790[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenciledOne Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 [quote name='He is Risen!' timestamp='1342678575' post='2456965'] I think that it is extremely important that the songs/hymns we sing in church art theologically on point. The main reason is because for me at least, these songs pop into my head throughout the day, week, year, etc. This music should be extremely nourishing because of its sticking power in our minds. I can still remember the sings we were taught in preschool! Here's an article that might be helpful for you: [url="http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=8790"]http://www.catholicc...cfm?recnum=8790[/url] [/quote] I can agree with not singing them at Mass, for basic common sense reasons. To extend it farther into just casual Praise and Worship, I dunno, because theology is not exactly clear cut and plenty of theologians disagree on different points. And honestly, if a song that may be untheologically sound but becomes stuck in your head, is much better than having a crappy song from the radio stuck in your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Right now this is stuck in my head: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipwEtvWL_3c[/media] "Nobody knows what we're for, only what we're against." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dells_of_bittersweet Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 [quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1342455213' post='2456070'] www.ocp.org Choose Christ series of music [/quote] I am quite active in the music ministry at my parish, and my main responsibility is planning XLTs where we sing praise and worship along with adoration. I would have to speak against using anything by a non-mainstream source as your main source for P&W. It's great to have specifically Catholic publishers, but the real movers and shakers aren't on their label. The best way to see what is current is to go to the CCLI top 25 on ccli.org. CCLI stands for Christian Copyright Licensing International. Every major artist can be accessed through a CCLI license. This will give you the ability to access their music, download sheet music, and listen to MP3 files. You need to get a CCLI license. I need to second the recommendation for worshiptogether.com A great way to stay in time is to buy the current CDs and play them continuously in your car. Buy all of the following: -Passion Album. This is released anually and features the tracks from Louie Giglio's Passion Conference. Buy at least the last three years of this album. -And if Our God is For Us by Chris Tomlin -Hello Love by Chris Tomlin -Church Music by David Crowder -Give us Rest by David Drowder -All of Matt Maher's albums -Both of Audrey Assad's Albums (She's Catholic. Yay!) -10,000 Reasons by Matt Redman -past 3 Newsboys albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Alright, completely forgot about getting you that list, and I won't exactly have access again for a couple of weeks. But off the top of my head 10,000 Reasons- Matt Redman United Pursuit Band Hillsong Jesus Culture And the stuff others have mentioned so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Two of the best resources I know: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/letters/2003/documents/hf_jp-ii_let_20031203_musica-sacra_en.html http://www.adoremus.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1342922604' post='2457715'] Two of the best resources I know: [url="http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/letters/2003/documents/hf_jp-ii_let_20031203_musica-sacra_en.html"]http://www.vatican.v...a-sacra_en.html[/url] [url="http://www.adoremus.org/"]http://www.adoremus.org/[/url] [/quote] TROLOLOLOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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