Jesus_lol Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Yeah, ardill, dont be that guy. Besides, it isnt that great of a gun, despite its amesome looks and reputation. similar to the Franchi SPAS 12(as seen in jurassic park!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 this thread makes me sad to have grown up in a liberal pansy-land. No guns except for the cops and criminals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Where did you grow up Ice 9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) I have hammerless Taurus .357 with trigger lock requiring a hex wrench tool. Carries well, fits well in hand and being hammerless prevents snagging with pulling out of concealment. [spoiler][img]http://dragon.hematite.com/M649_001.jpg[/img][/spoiler] Edited July 16, 2012 by Papist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Massachusetts. I can't even legally carry pepper spray without a permit that costs 25 bucks. Very annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximilianus Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Ice_nine' timestamp='1342497862' post='2456288'] Massachusetts. I can't even legally carry pepper spray without a permit that costs 25 bucks. Very annoying. [/quote] Many of the big firearms companies are located in states that highly restrictive to firearms ownership, like Massachusetts, Connecticut and New York. Smith & Wesson and Savage are located in Mass. Edited July 17, 2012 by Maximilianus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle_eye222001 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 [quote name='Ice_nine' timestamp='1342497862' post='2456288'] Massachusetts. I can't even legally carry pepper spray without a permit that costs 25 bucks. Very annoying. [/quote] Become a criminal. At least you can defend yourself then.... Pay $25 for a permit for pepper spray........that's a good one..... It should be free to defend yourself (ie. no payment for firearm registration...much less pepper spray). Interesting enough, we can't ask for photo ID for someone to prove who they are to vote (according to democrats), but we can make all kinds of monetary restrictions when it comes to a constitutional amendment to defend yourself. Is firearm payment registration the near equivalent of a poll tax? Answer this in debate thread as this seems to be off-topic. I'll make a new thread there within minutes of this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 There are certainly worse places to live than Mass. for gun rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Maybe, Iunno. I live close enough to the "live free or die" state to get all the fireworks, guns, and liquor whenever I want, all at wal-mart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted June 30, 2013 Author Share Posted June 30, 2013 Dont go for an OverUnder shotgun unless you can afford a lot of money for them. the cheaper ones are not worth it. A remington 870 wingmaster is a great pump action, along with the mossberg 500. Both are super tough well made guns. The rem 870 can easily swap out barrels (for longer or shorter barrels, from no choke for slugs, to full choke or more for turkey shooting) very adaptable. Semi auto wise, look into a Remington 1100? As for a rifle, .270-.308 should cover you for deer and elk. Nothing wrong with a .30-06 either, but a .308 does a lot of the same power, with significantly less recoil. I would recommend a Remington 700 (avoid the 770 like the plague), or one of the guns made by Savage. They put out a good rifle, very accurate and inexpensive. If hunting you are going to want to spend probably about the same amount of money on the scope as on the rifle, which is ok, as in the 500-700 dollar range there are a lot of great rifles available. Also worth looking into military surplus guns such as a Lee Enfield, Springfield or Mauser if you want something with a bit of history and shooting with iron sights. typically inexpensive as well, a good mosin nagant should be less than 150$. Also worth looking into is a lever action rifle in .30-30. excellent for deer. Not as powerful or flat shooting as .270, .308 or 30-06 Handgun wise there is a lot more you need to say about what you are getting it for. Semi auto or revolver? for target practice or concealed carry or both? Target/plinking wise i would say go for a full size frame gun, in 9mm, 40s&w or .45acp. 9mm is going to be way cheaper for shooting (the guy who shoots a 9mm all the time is way deadlier than a guy with a .44mag who cant afford to shoot it, and is afraid of the recoil) Handguns lose a lot of power when you put them in smaller barrels, and the recoil can become quite savage. a 9mm in a small gun, while it may look harmless, can be much harder to shoot than a full size .45 Also, having a longer sight radius is a big boon to accuracy. If you decide to go for a revolver, definitely go for a .38spl/.357 mag. it can fire both, so you can get a lot more practice in with the cheaper, light shooting .38 and keep the .357 around for fun or if you ever need it. You basically need to have a .22 rifle. there is no reason not to, with ammo being 20$ for 500+ rounds. it is the best way to get a lot of fun shooting in, and overall experience. Pretty good idea to have a .22 handgun as well, to help train proper techniques(quickest way to learn wrong is to start with a overly large gun). 22 rifle is also good for all kinds of small game, varmints, survival and target shooting. And 22s are a lot of fun, anyone who tells you otherwise is compensating for something. Get a ruger 10/22 for a semi auto rifle, you can make it look like anything from a m1 carbine to a G36c or AR15, and can fit 30 rnd mags or 50-100 round drum magazines in them for fun times. I have one of these, still works great from 1967. And if you ever want to get friends into shooting, having a 22 is a great idea. If you intend to use the same rifle for deer-bear hunting, look into something a little hotter like .30-06. It is going to be your most powerful all around cartridge(available in many different weights and loadings for different applications 170grain for deer, 220gr for larger game for example) Also, considering it has been around for 100 years, you are going to have to try hard to even find a walmart that doesnt carry the stuff. It should be capable of taking out anything in north america. Most other cartridges dont start edging out .30-06 until you get into .300 win mag, .338 lapua magnum, etc. and those are really expensive (like 100bucks for 20 .338 rounds) Guns like the remington 700 or savage's should be available in a multitude of different calibers. I ended up with the Rem 1187 semi-automatic for a shotgun. I've got no complaints about it yet. I'm still shopping for handguns. I am leaning towards a 40. The only drawback, is I don't see how an automatic handgun is effective for home defense. If you leave ammo in your magazines, you ruin the spring in them. I think I will be getting a revolver for home defense, and use the forty for primarily target practice. Haven't really started shopping for rifles yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Your bullets can't stop me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 j lol and winnie are gun nuts, aren't they? The word you're thinking of is "numbguts". Or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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