Something Weird Happened At Mass Today

[Brother Adam]

I agree with what others have said. Talk to the EMCH to get her arseessment. Even if it is a misunderstanding she needs to change what she is doing so people don't feel uncomfortable. It sounds like she is trying to deny you communion which is not her right to do so. After talking to her talk to the pastor, at a minimum she may need to be retrained.

[EmilyAnn]

[quote name='FutureCarmeliteClaire' timestamp='1341159697' post='2451166']

My pastor *almost* denied me Communion today while I was cantoring. Because I was kneeling. Yeah.
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That's really awful. Don't let it stop you from kneeling if that's what you want to do.

[quote name='Papist' timestamp='1341155930' post='2451155']
The next time you go there, bring a friend. Ask he/she to observe and give an honest as[color=#FFFFFF][size=1].[/size][/color]sessment.
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Unfortunately I don't have any Catholic friends but if I did I'd do that because it's just so weird.

Overall consensus seems to be that I talk to her, and then speak to my priest about it. I'll try speak to her next week, after that I'll be on my live-in so won't get the chance for a while.

Thank you so much guys. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks this needs addressing. I just pray there aren't too many other people who may have been hurt by this.

[dUSt]

Just throwing this out there, but if you are the only woman who wears a head covering, and this lady doesn't know much, she might think you are muslim.

[emmaberry]

Definitely talk to her, and I second the notion about the drinking age. I know my 10 & 12 year old brother and sister get puzzled looks when they drink the Precious Blood-but thank goodness they do, they need all the help they can get! Just kidding.


Maybe you look young? I doubt it has to do with your head-covering ( BTW) since she wears a hat, and very few do that for fashion purposes, especially in the Catholic Church today. So you and her probably share a similar sentiment on covering your head in the Presence of Christ.

She was probably improperly trained on giving the Precious Blood to the young, unfortunately. Or, she might have personal preferences about those who may not appear to be of the drinking age, which again would result from improper training.

I am arseuming you dress modestly if you cover your head. Just in case you don't, she may be trying to deny you the Precious Blood if she deems you aren't properly dressed, but I doubt this is your case!

Sorry you are going through this.

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='|dUSt|' timestamp='1341163622' post='2451177']
Just throwing this out there, but if you are the only woman who wears a head covering, and this lady doesn't know much, she might think you are muslim.
[/quote]That's a good point, actually. When I started wearing a headscarf (in Liverpool, where there's a fairly sizable Muslim community), the sacristan asked if I was changing religions or something to that effect. My husband quickly pointed out that it is a Christian tradition, but obviously the confusion did seem to be there.

Edited July 1, 2012 by Archaeology cat

[inunionwithrome]

There is a wonderful ezine article or ewtn article on headcoverings for women. I also wear one. Read 1 Corinthians. It's in there about it. Anyways, as far as Holy Communtion goes, I would talk to your parish priest about this first before approaching the EMHC. I am sure I get weird looks not only for my headcovering, but also because I have to receive a low-gluten host which has been deemed consecratable due to my gluten intolerance.

[socalscout]

I thought the exact same as Dust. Test it next week without the head covering or get a white lace one, if you don't get a chance to speak to her before then.

Edited July 1, 2012 by socalscout

[Annie12]

[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1341155594' post='2451150']
I've experienced kind of the same thing. I have always been short (I'm fifteen and 5'3 1/2), and I remember one lady was unsure if I was old enough to receive the blood or not. She just looked at me odd and held it there in confusion. Thank goodness my mother was there to nod to her and then she immediately gave it to me. It's not quite the same thing since she didn't do it because she thought I was too young, but this reminded me of it.

Anyway, as others of said, the best thing to do is talk to her. If she's being unreasonable about it because she doesn't like your cool headgear (I really approve of that, by the way.) than you obviously bring it up with the Priest. If he doesn't listen, the Bishop, and if not him, the Cardinal, and if not him, the Pope. I would lie just so I could see the Pope, but you can do whatever you think is prudent in your situation.


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As long as one has made their first communion they can receive the precious blood. Right??? It not an age thing. (???)

[FutureCarmeliteClaire]

[quote name='BG45' timestamp='1341161095' post='2451168']
You don't happen to live in the Diocese of Orange do you? Because last I heard, Bishop Tod Brown ordered his priests not to give Communion to anyone who dared to kneel.
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I didn't know that. No, I do not. But wow, still!

[Basilisa Marie]

[quote name='Annie12' timestamp='1341172846' post='2451230']
As long as one has made their first communion they can receive the precious blood. Right??? It not an age thing. (???)
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Right. Although, some people are of the persuasion that if a person is underage, they shouldn't touch any alcohol, even at marse. But the Church teaches that once a person has received his or her first communion, a person can receive under both species.

[NonNovi]

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1341154801' post='2451148']
just a point of clarification:
both species are His Body & Blood.
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You'll have to explain this to me, I don't think I understand you correctly. Doesn't our mother the Church teaches us:
[quote][b] that by the consecration of the bread and wine there takes place a change of the whole substance of the bread into the substance of the body of Christ our Lord and of the whole substance of the wine into the substance of his blood.[/b]
[/quote](Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1376)
Christ is present whole and entire in both species (CCC 1377), that is correct. But Body and Blood are separated things. Jesus said so. He didn't say: this bread is my body and blood, this wine is my body and blood. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not a specialist

(going a little off topic here)

[EmilyAnn]

[quote name='|dUSt|' timestamp='1341163622' post='2451177']
Just throwing this out there, but if you are the only woman who wears a head covering, and this lady doesn't know much, she might think you are muslim.
[/quote]

That was one thing I thought but I don't know, since she did eventually let me receive both times.

[quote name='emmaberry' timestamp='1341165018' post='2451181']
Maybe you look young? I doubt it has to do with your head-covering ( BTW) since she wears a hat, and very few do that for fashion purposes, especially in the Catholic Church today. So you and her probably share a similar sentiment on covering your head in the Presence of Christ.

She was probably improperly trained on giving the Precious Blood to the young, unfortunately. Or, she might have personal preferences about those who may not appear to be of the drinking age, which again would result from improper training.

I am arseuming you dress modestly if you cover your head. Just in case you don't, she may be trying to deny you the Precious Blood if she deems you aren't properly dressed, but I doubt this is your case!
[/quote]

I don't know, it seems like a fashion thing but I could be wrong. But if I am wrong then I'm even more confused as to why she keeps refusing me.

I don't look that young. I definitely look above 18 so I don't think it's that.

Considering my skirt was to my knees and I wearing a high-necked top and a long-sleeved cardigan, I doubt modesty is the issue! And even if I wasn't dressed as modestly, it's still not her place to refuse me.

I'm still not sure whether to talk to my priest first without talking to her or to wait and speak to her first.

[Papist]

[quote name='|dUSt|' timestamp='1341163622' post='2451177']
Just throwing this out there, but if you are the only woman who wears a head covering, and this lady doesn't know much, she might think you are muslim.
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If that is the case, this woman has NO business being a EMHC.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='NonNovi' timestamp='1341183218' post='2451280']
You'll have to explain this to me, I don't think I understand you correctly. Doesn't our mother the Church teaches us:
(Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1376)
Christ is present whole and entire in both species (CCC 1377), that is correct. But Body and Blood are separated things. Jesus said so. He didn't say: this bread is my body and blood, this wine is my body and blood. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not a specialist

(going a little off topic here) [/quote]

if you receive just the Host, you are receiving both the Body and the Blood of Jesus Christ. if you receive just the wine, you are receiving the Body and the Blood of Jesus Christ. both forms are (usually at a Novus Ordo M[i]a[/i]ss) presented to more fully express (grr...not the word I want. perhaps represent?) what you are receiving....I had a more cohesive thought here but my children interrupted me and now it's gone.

and going off-topic is kinda what happens around here

[EmilyAnn]

I don't exactly dress like a Muslim woman. My skirt was to my knees and all but my legs were bare (well in nude-coloured tights). I dress fairly normally, just y'know modestly and with a head-covering.

I don't know. I've been really freaked out by this, I haven't been able to concentrate on my prayers or anything all day.