sixpence Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 who gave r2 crazy drugs while i was gone?? R2... just... AH!... I hope you are trolling.... yes we all admit there are some "relationships" that are just about sex.. they exist, but you seem to make it sound like that is the ideal rather than a terrible situation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Didn't have time to read the entire article, but enough to get the gist of it. My only real quibble is that I don't like the idea of people identifying themselves with a disordered sexual inclination; I'd rather Mr. Weed (who apparently is quite capable of getting it on with a woman and begetting children, and does not live the homosexual lifestyle), identify himself simply as a man, rather than as a "gay." I'm not saying he must deny his SSA, but I believe one's actions are more important that disordered passions not acted on, and that one's sexual impulses should define one's identity. Unfortunately, our contemporary culture tends to make sexual passions the be-all and end-all of human existence. However, kudos to Mr. Weed for showing that one need not live as a slave to one's disordered passions, and that disordered inclinations need not determine one's lifestyle choices and behavior. Our modern culture has embraced the idiotic notion that one's sexual impulses (whatever they may be) should and must always be acted on (at least so far as they involve "consenting adults") and must never be denied. This is absolute garbage. I think it safe to say that Mr. Weed is living a far more fulfilled and happy life loving his wife and begetting and raising his own children than he ever would had he chosen to live a sodomitic "lifestyle." I think it safe to say that most "straight" married people must also deny their immediate sexual impulses to live a good married life. Most married persons will have sexual attraction to persons not their spouse. A married man may find the hot little thing down the street or at the office more immediately sexually attractive than his aging wife, but that doesn't mean he should go cheat on his wife to fulfill his sexual desire, no matter how "natural" banging any available attractive member of the opposite sex may seem (after all, that's typical behavior of most male members of the animal kingdom). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1339648765' post='2444523'] Seriously? He doesn't know how? As a fellow man you should know it's not something you "learn", it just happens.[/quote] Um, yeah. That awkward stage you're in now where erections happen to you at random and mean absolutely nothing sexually will pass. There is a method to getting an erection, and men learn this as they get older. It would make sense that after an injury this method might change, that can be difficult to do, changing that, but it can be done. [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1339674837' post='2444568'] That makes absolutely no sense. The relationshop is dependeant on sex. So then, if the sex goes, then so goes the relationship. If this not true, then what is it all about?[/quote] Of course the entire relationship doesn't just go away because sex cannot be had, but that still doesn't make you lovers. I have no idea what is so hard for people here to understand that there really is such a thing as sexual health, and yes, that does mean having sex. [quote name='Anomaly' timestamp='1339685073' post='2444616'] I'm pretty sure you never read the entire post. The couple does have a sex life. It's more than a story about how a gay guy can get it up for a woman. It's an example of recognizing that yourself and others are more than your respective genitalia and associated titillation.[/quote] I'm pretty sure you never read MissyP89's post which I quoted, otherwise you wouldn't have come to such a conclusion, not to mention actually understand what we're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 [quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1339714584' post='2444774'] Um, yeah. That awkward stage you're in now where erections happen to you at random and mean absolutely nothing sexually will pass. There is a method to getting an erection, and men learn this as they get older. It would make sense that after an injury this method might change, that can be difficult to do, changing that, but it can be done. Of course the entire relationship doesn't just go away because sex cannot be had, but that still doesn't make you lovers. I have no idea what is so hard for people here to understand that there really is such a thing as sexual health, and yes, that does mean having sex. I'm pretty sure you never read MissyP89's post which I quoted, otherwise you wouldn't have come to such a conclusion, not to mention actually understand what we're talking about. [/quote] No one is saying sex has no meaning. Sex is not the glue that should hold a relationship together. The quality of a relationship should not be contingent on the quality sex. There are 168 hours in a week. Subtract 56 for 8 hours sleep per day. That leaves 112 waking hours. I am away 10 hours Mon-Fri, have 1, 3 and 5 year olds, wife is homeschooling, house to manage, etc. Doesn't leave much time for your primary source of the relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) [quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1339714584' post='2444774'] Um, yeah. [color=#f0ffff][i][s]That awkward stage you're in now where erections happen to you at random and mean absolutely nothing sexually will pass.[/s][/i][/color] [/quote] [img]http://s18.postimage.org/3yd1o3geh/884279_time_to_stop_posting_super.jpg[/img] Edited June 15, 2012 by KnightofChrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1339719032' post='2444797'] No one is saying sex has no meaning. Sex is not the glue that should hold a relationship together. The quality of a relationship should not be contingent on the quality sex. There are 168 hours in a week. Subtract 56 for 8 hours sleep per day. That leaves 112 waking hours. I am away 10 hours Mon-Fri, have 1, 3 and 5 year olds, wife is homeschooling, house to manage, etc. Doesn't leave much time for your primary source of the relationship. [/quote] But you do have a sex life, correct? You people are reading way too much into what I'm saying. Just because sex is necessary for a marriage and for lovers does [i]not[/i], let me repeat this, does [size=8]not[size=4] mean[/size][/size] that nothing more than sex exists in the relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 [quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1339721530' post='2444808'] But you do have a sex life, correct? You people are reading way too much into what I'm saying. Just because sex is necessary for a marriage and for lovers does [i]not[/i], let me repeat this, does [size=8]not[size=4] mean[/size][/size] that nothing more than sex exists in the relationship. [/quote] But we are saying, and take note to this, saying this is [size=8]not[/size] a normal and lasting relationship if you "need" sex. Nobody needs sex. It's unifying, it's a way of expressing love, it's even necessary if the population wishes to continue, but it is not necessary to have in a relationship. If it is necessary than the relationship is about sex. That's what we're trying to tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1339721681' post='2444809']Nobody needs sex.[/quote] Nobody needs a hand grenade up their butt. People do need sex however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 [quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1339721758' post='2444810'] Nobody needs a hand grenade up their butt. People do need sex however. [/quote] Of course. That's why I am going to die in three days if I don't have sex soon. After all, it is completely necessary for every person on the planet to have sex. That's why people decide to live lives of chastity and what-not. Anyone have numbers for a prostitute? My time is running short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1339722036' post='2444811'] Of course. That's why I am going to die in three days if I don't have sex soon. After all, it is completely necessary for every person on the planet to have sex. That's why people decide to live lives of chastity and what-not. Anyone have numbers for a prostitute? My time is running short. [/quote] Actually, I never said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 [quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1339722267' post='2444813'] Actually, I never said that. [/quote] You said people need sex. Why do they need sex? Will they die if they don't? Will their entire lives crumble before them? Does it increase the chances for radiation cancer? Explain your statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1339722349' post='2444814'] You said people need sex. Why do they need sex? Will they die if they don't? Will their entire lives crumble before them? Does it increase the chances for radiation cancer? Explain your statement. [/quote] http://www.cdc.gov/sexualhealth/ [i][quote]Sexual health[/i] is a state of physical, emotional, mental and social well-being in relation to sexuality; it is not merely the absence of disease, dysfunction or infirmity. Sexual health requires a positive and respectful approach to sexuality and sexual relationships, [b]as well as the possibility of having pleasurable and safe sexual experiences[/b], free of coercion, discrimination and violence [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 The Human race "needs" the conjugal act to survive as a species, individual human beings however do not "need" the conjugal act or sexual gratification to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 [quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1339722648' post='2444816'] [url="http://www.cdc.gov/sexualhealth/"]http://www.cdc.gov/sexualhealth/[/url] [i] [/quote] The CDC quote still doesn't say that people NEED sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 [quote name='KnightofChrist' timestamp='1339723013' post='2444818'] The Human race "needs" the conjugal act to survive as a species, individual human beings however do not "need" the conjugal act or sexual gratification to survive. [/quote] Someone apparently does not like the CDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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