Papist Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1339630291' post='2444410'] Um, where did I say that? Actually, I said the opposite was abnormal. Why would anyone say marrying and raising a family was abnormal? I could make comments about the motivations of this bandwagon that you started, but I'll refrain. It is true that not every relationship is sexual, but there are [b]relationships that can only come from sex[/b]. Not everyone is capable of giving those up. [/quote] Such a relationship is empty, meaningless and selfish. A relationship that is dependent on the sex, is a relationship that is doomed. But then...is it really a relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1339637985' post='2444450'] Such a relationship is empty, meaningless and selfish. A relationship that is dependent on the sex, is a relationship that is doomed. But then...is it really a relationship. [/quote] Just because a relationship is dependent on sex does not mean it's all about sex.[quote name='MissyP89' timestamp='1339632368' post='2444419'] People that are incapable can become capable. Virtue and discipline are skills that can be honed. [/quote] Sex is a whole different animal, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) [quote name='qfnol31' timestamp='1339594437' post='2444252'] I don't think that TheoGrad or Mr. Weed meant to say it's about pleasure, but about intimacy. [/quote] Certainly. I actually didn't mean what I said exactly. What you say is true, though. Edited June 14, 2012 by FuturePriest387 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1339630291' post='2444410'] It is true that not every relationship is sexual, [b]but there are relationships that can only come from sex. [/b] Not everyone is capable of giving those up. [/quote] Would you like to explain what you mean, please? It sounds like you're saying some relationships can only be based upon sex, and that is what is commonly referred to as a divorce waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1339639777' post='2444456'] Would you like to explain what you mean, please? It sounds like you're saying some relationships can only be based upon sex, and that is what is commonly referred to as a divorce waiting to happen. [/quote] When people refer to their "lover" you realize that they are having sex right? They're hopefully is way more too it than that, but what makes you think all that would be able to exist without the sex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1339638347' post='2444452'] Just because a relationship is dependent on sex does not mean it's all about sex.[/quote] If a horrible accident were to leave it impossible for a person to have sex, would the relationship fall apart for these dependent people? If sex is absolutely necessary for a healthy relationship to exist between two people, then there is something wrong. That's not to say sex isn't a factor – sex is extremely important in marriage. But what I'm trying to say is that it isn't [i]absolutely necessary. [/i]It shouldn't be. Intimacy is necessary. Love is necessary. But those things take many, many forms and are different from couple to couple. [quote]Sex is a whole different animal, however. [/quote] It might be instinctive, it might be more difficult to resist, but it's really not a different animal at all. I'll say it again: self-discipline is a skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) [quote name='MissyP89' timestamp='1339640461' post='2444465'] If a horrible accident were to leave it impossible for a person to have sex, would the relationship fall apart for these dependent people? If sex is absolutely necessary for a healthy relationship to exist between two people, then there is something wrong. That's not to say sex isn't a factor – sex is extremely important in marriage. But what I'm trying to say is that it isn't [i]absolutely necessary. [/i]It shouldn't be. Intimacy is necessary. Love is necessary. But those things take many, many forms and are different from couple to couple. It might be instinctive, it might be more difficult to resist, but it's really not a different animal at all. I'll say it again: self-discipline is a skill. [/quote] See? This is why are you are a nuisance. I was saying much the same thing when you posted! Edited June 14, 2012 by FuturePriest387 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrestia Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1339640639' post='2444466'] See? This is why are you are a nuisance. I was saying much the same thing when you posted! [/quote]Worst compliment ever, but a compliment nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1339639543' post='2444455'] Certainly. I actually didn't mean what I said exactly. What you say is true, though. [/quote]That's good. My wife spends her life making high schoolers feel uncomfortable by talking about sex. I wouldn't take her up on that offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='qfnol31' timestamp='1339640916' post='2444469'] That's good. My wife spends her life making high schoolers feel uncomfortable by talking about sex. I wouldn't take her up on that offer. [/quote] I've been getting better. It used to be where if you said anything sexual I would've left the room in agony, but now I am able to talk about it, and I even read a Catholic article on it once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Adrestia' timestamp='1339640804' post='2444467'] Worst compliment ever, but a compliment nonetheless. [/quote] I was actually joking. I was saying much the same thing, but you said it way better than I was going to, so it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1339641338' post='2444474'] I've been getting better. It used to be where if you said anything sexual I would've left the room in agony, but now I am able to talk about it, and I even read a Catholic article on it once. [/quote]Beware of John Paul II. He gets quite explicit about what should take place during sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='qfnol31' timestamp='1339641464' post='2444477'] Beware of John Paul II. He gets quite explicit about what should take place during sex. [/quote] I know... My sister was talking about him one time and she said "orgasm", saying this is the terminology he used. I about died... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1339641407' post='2444475'] I was actually joking. I was saying much the same thing, but you said it way better than I was going to, so it works out. [/quote] That was me, not the eloquent Adrestia, but whatevs. She's a razzle dazzle chick, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1339630291' post='2444410'] It is true that not every relationship is sexual, but there are relationships that can only come from sex. Not everyone is capable of giving those up. [/quote] That sounds more like a booty call than a relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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