J C Penny Father's Day Ad

[Papist]

No. Jesus Christ came up with it. I simply comply. You?

[r2Dtoo]

Tag don't give it away?

[Lil Red]

weird. i (mostly) agree with Socrates i expect this abnormal aberration to pass shortly.

[r2Dtoo]

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1339114489' post='2442337']
weird. i (mostly) agree with Socrates i expect this abnormal aberration to pass shortly.
[/quote]
Oh, that? That's just me playing Jedi Mind tricks on you.

These are not the droids you're looking for...

[Anomaly]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1339112454' post='2442325']


Was being deliberately outrageous. Thanks for playing...
[/quote]I took it as being purposely provoking, but you have a good point. If ssa is always portrayed as being equivalent to being a monster and molester, wouldn't that attitude help persuade a person struggling view themselves as such and act accordingly? I would prefer everyone to be nice, hetero,and healthy. But if not, mean people can apologize, ssa persons behave as more than sex fiends, and sick people not wallowing in their misery. The more I think about it, the less problem I have with the ad. It's opinion if the ad is more tolerant than it is promoting.

[Adrestia]

Socrates did hit the nail on the head.

[kujo]

[quote name='Adrestia' timestamp='1339115346' post='2442344']
Socrates did hit the nail on the head.
[/quote]

What did the nail ever do to him? Be gay or something?

[r2Dtoo]

Head. Hah.

[PhuturePriest]

[quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1339113544' post='2442330']
You seriously have never heard of celebrating flesh? You really don't know what that means?
[/quote]

Seriously.

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1339117119' post='2442354']
Seriously.
[/quote]

It means to embrace the lusts of the flesh.

Galatians 5:16-24

"[url="http://bible.cc/galatians/5-16.htm"][b]16[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] I say then, walk in the spirit, and you shall not fulfil the lusts of the flesh. [/background][/size][/font][/color][url="http://bible.cc/galatians/5-17.htm"][b]17[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] For the flesh lusteth against the spirit: and the spirit against the flesh; for these are contrary one to another: so that you do not the things that you would. [/background][/size][/font][/color][url="http://bible.cc/galatians/5-18.htm"][b]18[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] But if you are led by the spirit, you are not under the law. [/background][/size][/font][/color][url="http://bible.cc/galatians/5-19.htm"][b]19[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are fornication, uncleanness, immodesty, luxury, [/background][/size][/font][/color][url="http://bible.cc/galatians/5-20.htm"][b]20[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] Idolatry, witchcrafts, enmities, contentions, emulations, wraths, quarrels, dissensions, sects, [/background][/size][/font][/color][url="http://bible.cc/galatians/5-21.htm"][b]21[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] Envies, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like. Of the which I foretell you, as I have foretold to you, that they who do such things shall not obtain the kingdom of God. [/background][/size][/font][/color][url="http://bible.cc/galatians/5-22.htm"][b]22[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] But the fruit of the Spirit is, charity, joy, peace, patience, benignity, goodness, longanimity, [/background][/size][/font][/color][url="http://bible.cc/galatians/5-23.htm"][b]23[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] Mildness, faith, modesty, continency, chastity. Against such there is no law. [/background][/size][/font][/color][url="http://bible.cc/galatians/5-24.htm"][b]24[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] And they that are Christ's, have crucified their flesh, with the vices and concupiscences."[/background][/size][/font][/color]

[kujo]

What the hell are we talking about?

[r2Dtoo]

At the moment? Flesh.

[Adrestia]

This.

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1339109274' post='2442298']
I don't think our society and culture in general would be in such a dismal state, if strongly believing Christians/Catholics would be more strongly pro-active in advancing and promoting [i]our[/i] values, rather than remaining largely silent and timid, while the other side actively pushes and promotes its contrary agenda - and only making defensive noises of outrage over whatever the latest travesty happens to be.[/quote]


IMHO, we are hurt by politicians who use moral issues as campaign platform planks while ignoring the moral principles in their own lives. (For example, a thrice married man is not a good spokesperson for the sanctity of marriage. When the "defensive noise of outrage" comes from politicians who only wish to court the conservative vote, it makes conservative people look like hypocrites.)

[r2Dtoo]

[quote name='Adrestia' timestamp='1339118789' post='2442369']
This.




IMHO, we are hurt by politicians who use moral issues as campaign platform planks while ignoring the moral principles in their own lives. (For example, a thrice married man is not a good spokesperson for the sanctity of marriage. When the "defensive noise of outrage" comes from politicians who only wish to court the conservative vote, it makes conservative people look like hypocrites.)
[/quote]
I think you fail to understand that your numbers have simply dwindled over the years. I'm not telling you what to believe in, but blaming other people for your small numbers in a majority rules society will not help. Additionally the gay marriage fight is far from over and in many states (such as mine) both parties are against it. Politicians will pass laws that they feel are reflective of their populations, and that's that.

[Adrestia]

[quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1339119277' post='2442375']
I think you fail to understand that your numbers have simply dwindled over the years. I'm not telling you what to believe in, but blaming other people for your small numbers in a majority rules society will not help. Additionally the gay marriage fight is far from over and in many states (such as mine) both parties are against it. Politicians will pass laws that they feel are reflective of their populations, and that's that.
[/quote]I don't fail to understand the numbers. My comment wasn't about numbers. Politicians pass laws that are reflective of their largest donors, not their constituents.