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[quote name='MissyP89' timestamp='1339032745' post='2442017']
Hey, guys, guess what...

:secret:

[i]Gay people exist.[/i] I don't think they're going to go away.

In all seriousness, I have a sincere question as someone truly trying to understand this issue. What is it that conservatives want? Is the goal to make all gay people go back into "hiding," as it were? Are we trying to eliminate homosexuality from the public sphere?

I'm keeping my own opinions out of this for now. Again, I'm just trying to understand the "Catholic position" regarding gay people in society.
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I'm not sure why it should be normal or acceptable for a person to identify himself by his perverse sexual desires.

I don't know too many people who publicly identify themselves as sadomasochists, but I would hope they would keep that kind of thing to themselves, their confessor, their psychologist, and maybe a confidant or two.

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[quote name='Amory' timestamp='1339497668' post='2443843']
I'm not sure why it should be normal or acceptable for a person to identify himself by his perverse sexual desires.[/quote]

I once had a gay guy tell me he thought that lady parts were "icky." To him, liking women is "perverse" and "abnormal."

[quote]I don't know too many people who publicly identify themselves as sadomasochists, but I would hope they would keep that kind of thing to themselves, their confessor, their psychologist, and maybe a confidant or two.
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You hang around Catholic threads a lot.

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[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1339109274' post='2442298'] Quite frankly, anyone whose morality and belief system is dictated to him by a clothing retailer is an idiot and has only himself to blame.
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People's views on morality come from the culture(s) that they are exposed to, often including the ads that surround them at every moment.

And, quite frankly, there are a lot of idiots out there. We shouldn't dispense with any concern for their views just because they happen to be less intelligent than most people. They, as much as anyone else, need the Church and its teachings for salvation.

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[quote name='Amory' timestamp='1339498403' post='2443845']
People's views on morality come from the culture(s) that they are exposed to, often including the ads that surround them at every moment.

And, quite frankly, there are a lot of idiots out there. We shouldn't dispense with any concern for their views just because they happen to be less intelligent than most people. They, as much as anyone else, need the Church and its teachings for salvation.
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Yes, please enlighten we who couldn't give less of a croutons who and how clothing retailers choose to market their product to.

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[quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1339113988' post='2442332']
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