LaPetiteSoeur Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1338835382' post='2440693'] I have no problem with colleges, but people rely on that little piece of paper that states you know stuff just a little too much. My dad's friend Craig is around fifty. He finished high school and from then on he taught himself everything he knows. He's such a good engineer that he was hired to help design the Apache Helicopter. He is hired all over the world to engineer razzle dazzle devices that make our everyday life possible, and he does this without even an associates degree. There are so many people who would dismiss him for this, but he knows more about engineering than any of these kids getting their master's degree (If there is such a thing in engineering). Plus, the college system as a whole has become all about greed. $32,000 dollars a year for college? Really? In Rome to go to the huge seminaries that are taught by the world's greatest theologians it only costs ten thousand a year. We either need a complete re-haul over the whole college system or we need to find something else to balance the weight of power like these guys are suggesting, in my humble and rather fiery opinion about this particular matter. Again, I don't have any problem with colleges. If I were to go to college I would go in Rome. But I speak on behalf of all the college students that have $70,000 of debt when I say there needs to be a definite change, and student loans/scholarships don't cut it. [/quote] I attend a public university as an out-of-state student and my tuition (by the end of all four years) is significantly less than $70,000. Of course, if you attend a Catholic or private university, the price is going to be much higher. As much as I wanted to go to a Catholic university, I knew that even with scholarships, my parents and I could never afford it--and we are solidly middle class. It is possible to end your four years of university studies without debt, but it is very, very difficult (especially with a Catholic or private school). Look into local public universities--Catholic centers are typically amesome. Apply for every scholarship you can, no matter how small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1338862885' post='2441039'] Me not knowing what you about talk. [/quote] My original post is in reference to artificial entry barriers, like state licensing. This would greatly aid in diminishing competition, thus helping drive up the price. I took your post as defending the superstition that state licensing insures that a worthy product is produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1338903338' post='2441148'] My original post is in reference to artificial entry barriers, like state licensing. This would greatly aid in diminishing competition, thus helping drive up the price. I took your post as defending the superstition that state licensing insures that a worthy product is produced. [/quote] You took me wrong. I do not support such state licensing. Your using the word superstition is peculiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regina_coeli Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I attended the closest state university because that is what I could afford. Found a major I loved, worked 30+ hours a week, and graduated without debt. For those attending Catholic schools and majoring in theology, how is that degree going to help with 80,000 in debt? Life is so full of choices, but I think some 18 year olds go down paths that they and their parents don't really see an end to, with unforeseen consequences. Praying for all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1338904202' post='2441149'] You took me wrong. I do not support such state licensing. Your using the word superstition is peculiar. [/quote] I slighted you. i take things in the most negative light possible, sometimes. I use that word as a jab against those who regard themselves as free of religion because they have substituted the rule of man for the rule of God. Which doesn't include you, obviously, but if I want to make it part of my typical jerkishness, I need to use it as much as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1338909050' post='2441181'] I slighted you. i take things in the most negative light possible, sometimes. I use that word as a jab against those who regard themselves as free of religion because they have substituted the rule of man for the rule of God. Which doesn't include you, obviously, but if I want to make it part of my typical jerkishness, I need to use it as much as possible. [/quote] Dare I say...... I understand you and agree with you here. What the hades is the world coming to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 [quote name='regina_coeli' timestamp='1338908959' post='2441180'] I attended the closest state university because that is what I could afford. Found a major I loved, worked 30+ hours a week, and graduated without debt. For those attending Catholic schools and majoring in theology, how is that degree going to help with 80,000 in debt? Life is so full of choices, but I think some 18 year olds go down paths that they and their parents don't really see an end to, with unforeseen consequences. Praying for all! [/quote] People have to be realistic. If you go into a ton of debt, have an idea of how you're going to pay it off. I've had some friends who double majored theology with something else, got a job doing something kind of but not really related to that something else, and volunteered at their parish on the weekends. With some liberal arts colleges it doesn't matter so much what you're going to major in as long as you're open. But you can't expect to get a job working for the Church that'll pay lots of money. I think there's a healthy balance between working really hard and going into a manageable amount of debt for one's education, depending on what you want to do afterwards. There's a difference between racking up $100k in debt for a career in theology and the same amount for a career in medicine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 You know who really liked college? Hitler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1338915396' post='2441232'] You know who really liked college? Hitler. [/quote] You know who couldn't get into college? Hitler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Your mom goes to college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1338852529' post='2440863'] I can only hope the the republicans will be swift in destroying this awful system. [/quote] "Republicans hate education! They hate women! The feed off the tears of children! They hate your little kitten!" For your penance, repeat this mantra 50 times a day until Obama gets re-elected. Go and sin against the state no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1338915396' post='2441232'] You know who really liked college? Hitler. [/quote] FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1338941817' post='2441521'] FTW [/quote] Why the mods (who are bullies) didn't close this thread when I won it, I just don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark of the Cross Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1338943233' post='2441532'] Why the mods (who are bullies) didn't close this thread when I won it, I just don't know. [/quote] A packet of assorted you're and your for Winchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 [quote name='i<3franciscans' timestamp='1338840892' post='2440755'] I still want to go to FUS and major in journalism. Just saying... [/quote] As much as I love Franciscan, our journalism department really isn't good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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