BeenaBobba Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 (edited) [quote name='JP2Iloveyou' date='May 16 2004, 02:26 PM'] I can understand how some of you disagree with the tax cut, other fiscal policy, or the war, but why? [/quote] Mark Shea did a good job, I think, explaining why he is aganist the war, and I happen to agree with him. You can read what he had to say [url="http://www.mark-shea.com/jwd.html"]here[/url]. God bless, Jennifer Edited May 17, 2004 by BeenaBobba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonSlayer Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 I not voting for voting for either, probably because I live in Australia, but I know that whenever the next federal election are, I won't be voting for Labor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicAndFanatical Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 Hey I forgot all about the Sacrament of Marriage being attacked as well as life..yikes.. Im curious as to what those 3 people that said they would vote for Kerry think now that they have read some very good posts. How can a Catholic, or Non-Catholic Christian vote for someone who is claims to be 'Catholic', although I dont think he really is, that not only allows death to babies, but also attacks a Sacrament? AL Said it best man, he is attacking the SACRAMENT of Marriage, a Sacrament given to us by God. He is no Catholic (not you AL, Kerry) and I wish he would stop saying he his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 [quote name='CatholicAndFanatical' date='May 17 2004, 08:18 AM'] How can a Catholic, or Non-Catholic Christian vote for someone who is claims to be 'Catholic', although I dont think he really is, that not only allows death to babies, but also attacks a Sacrament? [/quote] Not just one, but there are two Sacraments Kerry is attacking -- Marriage and the Eucharist, by refusing to listen to the bishops. [quote]He is no Catholic (not you AL, Kerry) and I wish he would stop saying he his.[/quote] *nods in agreement* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 [quote name='Iacobus' date='May 17 2004, 12:48 AM'] What brothers me, I live in IL, is that we found 13!!!! innconet men on death row over two years. 13! men who were going to be MURDERED by the state. How is murder not intrisically evil? If you system fails ONCE and an incconet man is killed you are murdering him. The DP per se is not evil. However the DP as the end result of a legal system that can never be 100% is wrong and evil. Because it will become murder. [/quote] Well, the DP platform isn't againist the death penalty either, it's for it actually. They aren't dumb enough to go that liberal when 80% of Americans are in favor of it. So, on that base, you really have no argument saying the DP isn't intristicly evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Well when not guilty man are killed it is called murder. "Better that 10 guilty man go few than 1 incconet man is condemed" ~O. W. Holmes So if we have a 100% perfect legal system, which would mean we are God which we aren't, than the DP could never turn into murder. However, we are fallen. We are of a darkened intelcutlet. We can be cruppt. But don't fear. Only 7% of the men on IL death row would be murdered. That seems like a good nice low number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicAndFanatical Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 In a way maybe it is evil. I mean why did we start to have the death penalty to begin with? It was started because we didnt know what to do with criminals that were 'fixable' and we didnt have life without parole, so they chose a death penalty not only to try and 'scare' people from doing harm but also to weed out the bad. Now in 2004 we have life without the possibility of parole and have no need in the death penalty now, the problems solved. So in essence to continue to do so is fruitless. It hasnt stopped crime and has caused more problems than its worth (ie innocent men getting killed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immaculata Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 [quote name='Iacobus' date='May 16 2004, 11:48 PM'] What brothers me, I live in IL, is that we found 13!!!! innconet men on death row over two years. 13! men who were going to be MURDERED by the state. How is murder not intrisically evil? If you system fails ONCE and an incconet man is killed you are murdering him. The DP per se is not evil. However the DP as the end result of a legal system that can never be 100% is wrong and evil. Because it will become murder. [/quote] Yeah, I think the only good thing Govenor Ryan ever did was the whole DP thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Well he made it easier to get Trucker lincese, hehe. Yeh that is probly all the good he did. I liked him for it. Sad that they indicted him though. What is it with IL why don't our govs do anything? When was the last time Blago left Chicago? Hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamalove Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 I've been hearing this great point on talk radio lately: We are in this great war against terrorism. Our enemy, Islamic terrorist will do any and everything to kill as many Americans and Christians as possible. The best way to vote is to find out who they, the terrorists, want to will the election and vote for the other guy. The terrorists love Kerry and hate Bush. GW sure has my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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