4588686 Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 I have come watched and read a few things by him. And I can come up with two possibilities. either D'Souza is a charlatan who is willingly taking advantage of people, of he's just stupid. Honestly, I think he's just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 no u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted June 1, 2012 Author Share Posted June 1, 2012 [quote name='HisChildForever' timestamp='1338519440' post='2439096'] no u [/quote] How come you can be such a cruel and biting person and still get pink gummy-bears from your great boyfriend, while I am kind-hearted and uplifting and my boyfriend gets me nothing? I'm like the pretty girl who never gets asked to the prom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1338519618' post='2439099'] How come you can be such a cruel and biting person and still get pink gummy-bears from your great boyfriend, while I am kind-hearted and uplifting and my boyfriend gets me nothing? I'm like the pretty girl who never gets asked to the prom [/quote] There there, one day he'll surprise you with tickets to Broadway or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted June 1, 2012 Author Share Posted June 1, 2012 [quote name='HisChildForever' timestamp='1338519855' post='2439101'] There there, one day he'll surprise you with tickets to Broadway or something [/quote] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI3fN5wvMtM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI3fN5wvMtM[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 He doesn't really do it for me as an apologist. Not my fave. He could be worse though. Yeah, that's for damm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1338519280' post='2439094'] I have come watched and read a few things by him. And I can come up with two possibilities. either D'Souza is a charlatan who is willingly taking advantage of people, of he's just stupid. Honestly, I think he's just stupid. [/quote] From the little bit I've seen from him, I'm not impressed. Stupid? Doubt it. I fully admit the first I heard of him was in a rap song. Edited June 1, 2012 by Amppax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 For the sake of civility I'm not going to name names, but there are a couple apologists who make my skin crawl. This one guy gave a 60 minute talk and spend about 40 of those minutes committing character assassination on Dawkins and amateur psychoanalyzing him in an absurdly condescending way. Never mind that Dawkins wasn't even there to defend himself and it's unclear why he was brought up at all. It was bizarre and kind of creepy actually. Worst part was that a lot of people seemed to like it. [i]Hee-haw![/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 But yeah, that's the kind of croutons I really don't like. I've probably watched around a dozen of D'Souza debates and he sometimes does kinda go there, but not as bad as the example above. The "atheists can't have real morality" type arguments also rub me the wrong way. I'm not crazy about apologists with a self-assured, pontificating tone either. I'm impressed by intellectual humility, fairness, and sincerity; and I'm apprehensive when those qualities seem to be lacking. And that applies especially when the person is championing the cause I believe in. Thanks, but no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) This is the most recent D'Souza debate that I've watched. [media=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulykALV2FQ8[/media] I thought D'Souza was relatively good (as far as it goes--the bar was set very low), but Hutchinson didn't really meet my expectations. I read Sean Carroll's blog and found it neat to hear him debate. He's a naturalist/atheist but this has never offended me. The sense I have is that he would really listen and consider reasonable arguments for the supernatural, unlike some who I imagine would scoff at the suggestion. Edited June 1, 2012 by Laudate_Dominum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) I've got that debate playing in the background and around 16:30 Hutchinson starts talking about Dawkins. Start "debating" an imaginary Richard Dawkins for no apparent reason? I can recall D'Souza doing this on multiple occasions. Realizing this is a pet peeve and I think by now a terrible cliche. On the other hand, I am curious to read Hutchinson's book. The terms like "culture war" and "scientism" turn me off a bit (plain old honest inquiry please; no need for -isms, epithets, and team psychology), but I'm thinking it makes some important points. [url="http://www.amazon.com/Monopolizing-Knowledge-Ian-Hutchinson/dp/0983702306/"]Monopolizing Knowledge[/url] Edited June 1, 2012 by Laudate_Dominum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 L_D, have you ever listened/read anything by Msgr. Alabacete? I think you would enjoy doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1338531606' post='2439192'] L_D, have you ever listened/read anything by Msgr. Alabacete? I think you would enjoy doing so. [/quote] Yeah, he's razzle dazzle shyte. God at teh Ritz, the movement, and all that. Thanks, Red! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Might be the first time I've ever propped HCF. Also, D'Souza? What language abbreviates before a consonant. Dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocent Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1338535125' post='2439200'] Might be the first time I've ever propped HCF. Also, D'Souza? What language abbreviates before a consonant. Dumb. [/quote] That [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousa_%28surname%29"]Portuguese surname[/url] was introduced into India during the colonial period. Edited June 1, 2012 by Innocent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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