emmaberry Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Hello, I am reading My Beloved: The Story of a Carmelite Nun and I have a renewed love for Carmel. My parents' first concern with my vocation is, "And how often will we get to see you???" In my limited experience with contemplative communities, it seems sisters are allowed to visit with 'outsiders' 3 times a year for cloistered nuns, and 4 times a year for non-cloistered sisters. I know we have members of PM who are SUPER knowledgeable about Carmelites in the US. I would love to know how many times per year different contemplative convents (Carmelites and others!) allow family to visit. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 The Carmelites in Port Tobacco, MD can have their family visit them once a month if so desired. I don't know about the others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen'sDaughter Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 The Benedictines of Mary allow for twice yearly visits, as do the nuns of the Carmel of Jesus, Mary and Joseph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyAnn Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 At St. Cecilia's Abbey they get two visits a year from family, the family visit for a few days I believe. If the sister's family is from very far then they visit once a year for a week, such as in the case of the Novice Mistress who is from the States. I was told what it was at Notting Hill Carmel (FaithCececila's community) but I cannot for the life of me remember. It may have been they got visits once a month but I'm not 100% sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 (edited) I'm not sure if it's the same for female communities, but in my experience male communities differ quite a bit. Some let your family visit you once a month and you get a ten day vacation, some don't let you leave but allow your parents to visit from time to time, and some don't allow either. It might be best to simply ask the Monastery you're looking into. Edited May 31, 2012 by FuturePriest387 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmaberry Posted June 1, 2012 Author Share Posted June 1, 2012 Thanks for all the replies! I have asked the monasteries I have contacted, but many cloistered communities don't use email, and I don't want to use 20 stamps just to satisfy my curiosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictlyinkblot Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 The majority of contemplative communities that I know of allow a visit or a phone call once a month. Even Kirk Edge carmel which is under the 1990's constitution allows a phone call once a month where family can't visit regularly.Though I believe visits are restricted during the novitiate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissylou Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 [img]http://stanthonyshrine.org/PoorClares/images/parlor_sm.jpg[/img] It varies a lot by community, I think. There is a Poor Clares (OSC) monastery around the corner from my house (yes, around the corner. And there's a Carmel a 15-minute bus ride away. You may all be jealous.) This is what they say: "They say once you go through that door your family never sees you again. Is that true?" Sounds like you've been taken in by Hollywood's weird versions of life in a monastery. The custom here is a family visit each month for the first year. Not bad, huh? From then on, visits are something like every three months, with a birthday and Christmas visit thrown in. Furthermore, no one who comes to see you is ever turned away. Bonds with our loved ones tend to become even closer than when we were with them, and our visits are happily anticipated reunions. Nuns need the nurturing love of their families, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='krissylou' timestamp='1338585538' post='2439642'] [img]http://stanthonyshrine.org/PoorClares/images/parlor_sm.jpg[/img] It varies a lot by community, I think. There is a Poor Clares (OSC) monastery around the corner from my house (yes, around the corner. And there's a Carmel a 15-minute bus ride away. You may all be jealous.) This is what they say: "They say once you go through that door your family never sees you again. Is that true?" Sounds like you've been taken in by Hollywood's weird versions of life in a monastery. The custom here is a family visit each month for the first year. Not bad, huh? From then on, visits are something like every three months, with a birthday and Christmas visit thrown in. Furthermore, no one who comes to see you is ever turned away. Bonds with our loved ones tend to become even closer than when we were with them, and our visits are happily anticipated reunions. Nuns need the nurturing love of their families, too. [/quote] Jeez, women communities are so much more convenient. Most of the male communities I know of really smell of elderberries about family visits. The Franciscan Brothers Minor only let your family visit every three months. Despite being Friars they don't even get vacations! The Little Brothers of Saint Francis let you visit your family once a week every three years. These are the more extreme cases, of course. Some are nice like the Franciscan Brothers of Peace where your family may visit once a month and you get a ten day vacation, but the majority aren't so nice. I'm not sure about the Monasteries I've looked into. Perhaps Monasteries are simply by rule way better about this than Friars and Sisters are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmaberry Posted June 2, 2012 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='krissylou' timestamp='1338585538' post='2439642'] [img]http://stanthonyshrine.org/PoorClares/images/parlor_sm.jpg[/img] It varies a lot by community, I think. There is a Poor Clares (OSC) monastery around the corner from my house (yes, around the corner. And there's a Carmel a 15-minute bus ride away. You may all be jealous.) This is what they say: "They say once you go through that door your family never sees you again. Is that true?" Sounds like you've been taken in by Hollywood's weird versions of life in a monastery. The custom here is a family visit each month for the first year. Not bad, huh? From then on, visits are something like every three months, with a birthday and Christmas visit thrown in. Furthermore, no one who comes to see you is ever turned away. Bonds with our loved ones tend to become even closer than when we were with them, and our visits are happily anticipated reunions. Nuns need the nurturing love of their families, too. [/quote] Wow-I am jealous. What are the titles of these convents? Sorry, I promise I am not trying to sneakily find out where you live, I'd just like to look up that Carmel and Poor Clare convent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissylou Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Okay, ask and you shall receive! (Both of these websites are updated approximately once in a million years.) http://stanthonyshrine.org/PoorClares/ http://www.carmelitesofboston.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyAnn Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1338597907' post='2439742'] Jeez, women communities are so much more convenient. Most of the male communities I know of really smell of elderberries about family visits. The Franciscan Brothers Minor only let your family visit every three months. Despite being Friars they don't even get vacations! The Little Brothers of Saint Francis let you visit your family once a week every three years. These are the more extreme cases, of course. Some are nice like the Franciscan Brothers of Peace where your family may visit once a month and you get a ten day vacation, but the majority aren't so nice. I'm not sure about the Monasteries I've looked into. Perhaps Monasteries are simply by rule way better about this than Friars and Sisters are? [/quote] Every three months is loads! I can't imagine having my family visit that often, I do actually prefer that St. C's only allows twice a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='EmilyAnn' timestamp='1338637952' post='2439866'] Every three months is loads! I can't imagine having my family visit that often, I do actually prefer that St. C's only allows twice a year. [/quote] Oh, it's loads all right. I do suppose it is quite a bit. I'm just usually looking for once a month with a vacation when I look into communities like I am used to, and when I see once every three months without vacation I think "I'm not a cloistered Nun, you know!". I suppose I should be more grateful, though. At least I'll see them more than once a year if I join them. I'm not sure how long the visits last, but I can imagine it's not only for one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyAnn Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1338658818' post='2439944'] Oh, it's loads all right. I do suppose it is quite a bit. I'm just usually looking for once a month with a vacation when I look into communities like I am used to, and when I see once every three months without vacation I think "I'm not a cloistered Nun, you know!". I suppose I should be more grateful, though. At least I'll see them more than once a year if I join them. I'm not sure how long the visits last, but I can imagine it's not only for one day. [/quote] I'm not sure you should chose a community based on your vacation time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 (edited) [quote name='EmilyAnn' timestamp='1338670204' post='2440031'] I'm not sure you should chose a community based on your vacation time. [/quote] I'm not. I never said I did. I simply said I was disappointed and then agreed it was better than others. Besides, chances are I'm going with the Diocesan Priesthood anyway. Edited June 3, 2012 by FuturePriest387 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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