Fallen Catholic, Believes There Is No Proof God Exists. Needs Help&#33

[Aragon]

This is the double edged sword of free will, too. Our free will allows us to seek the Truth and love God, but conversely it enables us to ignore and even reject God.

Ultimately you can't make the decision to follow Christ for him. You have to sanctify yourself, be a good example, share your Faith, answer his questions, and pray. That's all we can really do - the rest is between him and the grace of God.

[ContemporaryCaflicCrusader]

It is heresy to say that humans could of evolved from apes. At what point would we have gotten a soul? Men were created seperate from all the other creatures. Over a hundred years ago the Church decided there were 9 things we could be absolutely positive of from the first 12 chapters of Genesis. I wrote some of them down in that class amidst the cartooning I did in my notes and I'm positive the Church is ok with the Big Bang theory but [b]we did not come from apes. [/b]

[cmotherofpirl]

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[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='ContemporaryCaflicCrusader' timestamp='1345214679' post='2469165']
It is heresy to say that humans could of evolved from apes. At what point would we have gotten a soul? Men were created seperate from all the other creatures. Over a hundred years ago the Church decided there were 9 things we could be absolutely positive of from the first 12 chapters of Genesis. I wrote some of them down in that class amidst the cartooning I did in my notes and I'm positive the Church is ok with the Big Bang theory but [b]we did not come from apes. [/b]
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Nobody said we did. However, we share a common ancestry with them, which is not the same thing.

[Anomaly]

[quote name='ContemporaryCaflicCrusader' timestamp='1345214679' post='2469165']
It is heresy to say that humans could of evolved from apes. At what point would we have gotten a soul? Men were created seperate from all the other creatures. Over a hundred years ago the Church decided there were 9 things we could be absolutely positive of from the first 12 chapters of Genesis. I wrote some of them down in that class amidst the cartooning I did in my notes and I'm positive the Church is ok with the Big Bang theory but [b]we did not come from apes. [/b]
[/quote]Dude, you're wrong. Catholicism has no problem with humans physically evolving from apes. Catholicism does not limit defining a human as only physical. You've forgotten the whole soul 'thingy'. You may be whiter than Edgar Winters, but as a Catholic, you've still got a little 'soul', brother.

[b]Concerning human evolution, the Church has a more definite teaching. It allows for the possibility that man’s [i]body[/i] developed from previous biological forms, under God’s guidance, but it insists on the [i]special creation[/i] of his [i]soul[/i]. Pope Pius XII declared that "the teaching authority of the Church does not forbid that, in conformity with the present state of human sciences and sacred theology, research and discussions . . . take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter—[but] the Catholic faith obliges us to hold that souls are immediately created by God" (Pius XII, [i]Humani Generis[/i] 36). So whether the human body was specially created or developed, we are required to hold as a matter of Catholic faith that the human soul is specially created; it did not evolve, and it is not inherited from our parents, as our bodies are. [/b]