Gays In Military

[dairygirl4u2c]

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[Winchester]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aotlEpmAFVQ[/media]

[Papist]

Why not. I has worked for the The Hellenic army for a long time.

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[Vincent Vega]

I'm pretty sure those are just Greek broads. Turns out a steady diet of feta and olive oil does not an attractive gal make.

[kujo]

I don't know what "flaunt it" [color=#333333]means. If by "flaunting it" you [/color][color=#333333]mean talking about their relationship and/or sex life in the exact sa[/color][color=#333333]me [/color][color=#333333]manner that heterosexual [/color][color=#333333]males and fe[/color][color=#333333]males have been doing for thousands of years, than no--gays shouldn't serve in the [/color][color=#333333]military. Why should they have to continue to hide or have a foot in the closet?[/color]

[thessalonian]

Those who are gay, even openly gay do have certain rights as humans to make a living. So I do think a Catholic can answer yes to question 1. But I did not because it seems to me that it is disruptive to the mission of the military.

[thessalonian]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1337772795' post='2433936']
I don't know what "flaunt it" [color=#333333]means. If by "flaunting it" you [/color][color=#333333]mean talking about their relationship and/or sex life in the exact sa[/color][color=#333333]me [/color][color=#333333]manner that heterosexual [/color][color=#333333]males and fe[/color][color=#333333]males have been doing for thousands of years, than no--gays shouldn't serve in the [/color][color=#333333]military. Why should they have to continue to hide or have a foot in the closet?[/color]
[/quote]

Ummmm because homosex is gravely disordered. I know you don't agree but so what. Why do those who love porn have to hide in their homes. Why can't they just log in to the library and view porn. Ummmm because it is imoral and they know it. Gays know as well. That is why they were in the closet in the first place.

[kujo]

[quote name='thessalonian' timestamp='1337789507' post='2433998']
Ummmm because homosex is gravely disordered. I know you don't agree but so what. Why do those who love porn have to hide in their homes. Why can't they just log in to the library and view porn. Ummmm because it is imoral and they know it. Gays know as well. That is why they were in the closet in the first place.
[/quote]

We are talking about the military, correct? Not the Papal Army, or some sort of privately-funded morality police force. I have family and friends in the armed forces, and I've seen and read enough to know that activities that you pious folk would consider "gravely disordered" occur all.the.time.

[kujo]

The general topic here--homosexuality--is circular, so let's focus on the nuances. Specifically, the answer to the second question posed by the OP: can a Catholic answer "yes" to the question of whether or not gays should be allowed to serve openly in the military. I don't think there's anything in the Catechism or anywhere else that says that Catholics are compelled to vote one way or another on this issue. It's not one of the "non-negotiables" like opposition to gay marriage is. So, am I missing something?

[4588686]

[quote name='thessalonian' timestamp='1337789507' post='2433998']
Gays know as well. That is why they were in the closet in the first place.
[/quote]

Oh, I get it. You're a troll. Well played, sir. Well played.

[Jesus_lol]

what about all the catholic converts who havent told their protestant families? or who avoid contentious arguments on abortion/gay marriage to avoid alienating friends, or out of professional courtesy at work?

they must know that being catholic is immoral. otherwise they wouldnt just talk about catholicism on their private computer.

[4588686]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=17u01_sWjRE&NR=1"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=17u01_sWjRE&NR=1[/url]

[qfnol31]

If homosexuality and pedophilia were once conflated, it's no wonder we've had so many problems recently.

That movie is kind of creepy in itself. Take that hair for instance!

[qfnol31]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1337794581' post='2434011']
The general topic here--homosexuality--is circular, so let's focus on the nuances. Specifically, the answer to the second question posed by the OP: can a Catholic answer "yes" to the question of whether or not gays should be allowed to serve openly in the military. I don't think there's anything in the Catechism or anywhere else that says that Catholics are compelled to vote one way or another on this issue. It's not one of the "non-negotiables" like opposition to gay marriage is. So, am I missing something?
[/quote]I think you're right on this. I think a Catholic could go either way.

DADT was based on the idea that military members are held to a higher standard than the rest of society. The question of DADT falls more properly under the question of what can we expect from our military members, which is a prudential question along the lines of "what form of government is best?".

[Anomaly]

Thought that occured to me. Whether you're gay or hetero, there are standards of behavior in the military. Women and men serve together with rules of conduct and rules of punishment or penalty if there is a problem. Catholics would expect Hetero-S to be 'chaste', and they have the same standard for Homo-S. The fact that either gender may choose to behave differently is irrelevant to who they're having sex with.

Now that brings up another issue/question. If men and women can expect seperate showers and bathroom facilities for privacy and the sexual issues involved, wouldn't straight/gay persons expect the same for privacy and sexual issues?