PhuturePriest Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) I learned that the human voice is made to sing or speak twenty four hours a day and not feel strained. If you do feel strained, you're doing something wrong. I feel strained when singing higher notes. What could I possibly be doing wrong? Edited April 30, 2012 by FuturePriest387 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 You have to consider, first of all, that everyone has a specific vocal range and that at some point, you're going to be pushing yourself too hard. You should never strain because that can cause damage. It is possible to increase your vocal range, but it's something that takes patience. You need to work on it slowly in order for it to be safe and effective. I'm not a professional, only someone that's sung choral music for about 10 years, so I'll defer to those who are trained (what up, Mission? ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1335826501' post='2425402'] I learned that the human voice is made to sing or speak twenty four hours a day and not feel strained. If you do feel strained, you're doing something wrong. I feel strained when singing higher notes. What could I possibly be doing wrong? [/quote] may you just say the wrong stuff..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 [quote name='MissyP89' timestamp='1335827158' post='2425408'] I'm not a professional, only someone that's sung choral music for about 10 years, so I'll defer to those who are trained (what up, Mission? ). [/quote] Totally forgot Mission was a music person, herpa derp. USAir is too. I'm going to defer to them on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I wasn't sure if USAir actually [i]liked [/i]to sing. I thought he just did it when they made him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) [quote name='MissyP89' timestamp='1335828098' post='2425415'] I wasn't sure if USAir actually [i]liked [/i]to sing. I thought he just did it when they made him. [/quote] No, I do like to sing. I just don't care to be made to do so. I'm an instrumentalist, primarily; that said, I've been singing in choirs and choruses of various calibres since I was a small child, and have been in several collegiate level choral ensembles, so I kind of know what's going on. Aside from that, I'm also studying linguistics, so the human voice is kind of my trade. As to what you could be doing wrong, it could be any number of things. Is your voice irritated primarily when you are singing near the top of your range? edit - saw that you included that in your original post hurrdurr. Forgive me, it's finals week. Try this: [url="http://www.voiceteacher.com/male_voice.html"]http://www.voiceteacher.com/male_voice.html[/url] [b] Seven Major Causes of Vocal Problems in the Male Upper Passaggio[/b] [list] [*][b] High larynx in the middle register (usually caused by the mouth being TOO OPEN).[/b] [*][b] Pushing of too much breath pressure through the vocal cords while ascending.[/b] [*][b] Flat, low, or retracted tongue position (tongue cover)[/b] [*][b] Spread mouth position or lack of the perfect oval shape resulting in too much spreading of the middle register.[/b] [*][b] Forward thrust of the jaw.[/b] [*][b] Locking or shaking of the solar plexus.[/b] [*][b] Lack of head voice release early enough in the scale (no laryngeal tilt in the middle voice).[/b] [/list] Edited April 30, 2012 by USAirwaysIHS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 I've never actually heard that humans were made to be able to speak of sing for 24 hours without feeling strain, and honestly it doesn't make sense because humans were not made to do ANYTHING for 24 hours without feeling strain. Granted that is just my initial reaction with no knowledge of the accuracy of that particular comment. However, you should be able to sing or speak for normal amounts of time without feeling strain (or even amounts of time that you consider to be a lot). Also, I would guess that this ...information is based on the fact that NO OTHER environmental figures are factoring in, like allergies, illness,stress, fatigue (which is why I think the whole "talk for 24 hours" thing is pure BS) As a vocalist, half of the stuff we do is to prevent or nurse strained vocal chords: warm ups, position of the head, neck, tongue, back, shoulders, and abdomen. It's tough, sometimes. When I was singing regularly, I had a six pack. I would say that if you are struggling with strain on the outer reaches of your range, do LOTS of warming up before attempting to sing that. I hope that the person you are working with has experience with how the singing apparatuses in the human body actually work anatomically and physiologically. The position of the head and neck is extremely important as well. If you are holding your head wrong, the muscles are distorted, causing strain. (Which is what the stuff USAir posted is dealing with) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximilianus Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) What she said, or you can just stop trying to sing like Bruce Dickenson, the guy is dubbed the "Air Raid Siren". Edited May 1, 2012 by Maximilianus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Also, even what you eat and drink can effect your vocal chords. Milk = not good Soda= not good Cold drinks = not good Alcohol = not good anything dairy, really = not good. among other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Caffeine too. And smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1335845483' post='2425525'] Caffeine too. And smoking. [/quote] I'm screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Warm tea with honey and lemon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 [quote name='Amppax' timestamp='1335845753' post='2425526'] I'm screwed. [/quote] I like drinking and smoking on Saturday nights because my voice is always nice and low on Sundays. I can get the Eb below the staff sometimes, even. And I don't care all that much about healthy voice and so on because I don't intend to sing for my supper at any point. (I will deny this if pointed out to anyone under whom I do, have ever, or ever will sing.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1335846074' post='2425528'] I like drinking and smoking on Saturday nights because my voice is always nice and low on Sundays. I can get the Eb below the staff sometimes, even. And I don't care all that much about healthy voice and so on because I don't intend to sing for my supper at any point. (I will deny this if pointed out to anyone under whom I do, have ever, or ever will sing.) [/quote] I lol'ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) I'm too tired to write coherent posts. A pox on finals week! Edited May 1, 2012 by Amppax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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