The Dark Knight Rises Theory

[Jesus_lol]

I see the skin colour issue to be somewhat important though maybe not for this partiuclar movie. It is a common thing in hollywood to see characters whitewashed. Good example would be M Night's "The Last Airbender" movie, which was outright terrible. but all the characters in the source material were from different ethnicities, asian, inuit, Indian, etc and it was fairly important to the story, but then they only hired a bunch of white actors.

[Socrates]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1342996034' post='2457920']
I see the skin colour issue to be somewhat important though maybe not for this partiuclar movie. It is a common thing in hollywood to see characters whitewashed. Good example would be M Night's "The Last Airbender" movie, which was outright terrible. but all the characters in the source material were from different ethnicities, asian, inuit, Indian, etc and it was fairly important to the story, but then they only hired a bunch of white actors.
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In this case, I'd definitely not see it as important. From what I've seen in the comics, Bane's skin color looks white, and I looked it up, and the character in the comics is indeed the son of a blond-haired English mercenary named Sir Edmund Dorrance (aka Kingsnake).
In the movie, it appeared Bane's ethnic origins were kept intentionally vague.


Also, from what I've seen, if anything it's more common in contemporary movies to change characters that were white in the source material to black than vise-versa. If it's not important to the story, it's not necessarily a big deal.
For instance, no one complained in the Avengers movie series when Nick Fury, who'd always been white in the comics, was played by Samuel L. Jackson. (A few did complain, though, in Thor, when it included black and Asian [i]Norse[/i] gods. And if you think that's racist, imagine the reaction if white actors were hired to play characters from African mythology or such.)

Of course, casting villains can be politically tricky because it can be "damned if you do, damned if you don't." There will always be people upset by villains of color.
(Sometimes "whitewashing" can be done for purposes of political correctness, in which case it can be obnoxious. I had no interest in seeing the movie of Tom Clancy's [i]The Sum of All Fears[/i], when I learned the terrorist masterminds in the story had been changed from Islamists to neo-Nazis (not out of some racism, but because this seemed to me a spineless pc attempt to avoid "controversy." Islamists are more relevant to current geo-political reality than Nazis, now a hollywood cliche.)

In any case, this silliness over Bane and such seems to be more nonsense by those who are constantly looking for things to get racially offended over.

[arfink]

I actually went and saw the movie. I can tell you that any "controversy" that was claimed about the movie is completely baseless and was done only to attract attention to the people doing the complaining.

Note: slight plot spoiler below:
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Also, I should point out that they *did* in fact change Bane's parentage from what it was in the comics. He is not the son of a mercenary in the movie.
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[havok579257]

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1342998513' post='2457927']
In this case, I'd definitely not see it as important. From what I've seen in the comics, Bane's skin color looks white, and I looked it up, and the character in the comics is indeed the son of a blond-haired English mercenary named Sir Edmund Dorrance (aka Kingsnake).
In the movie, it appeared Bane's ethnic origins were kept intentionally vague.


Also, from what I've seen, if anything it's more common in contemporary movies to change characters that were white in the source material to black than vise-versa. If it's not important to the story, it's not necessarily a big deal.
For instance, no one complained in the Avengers movie series when Nick Fury, who'd always been white in the comics, was played by Samuel L. Jackson. (A few did complain, though, in Thor, when it included black and Asian [i]Norse[/i] gods. And if you think that's racist, imagine the reaction if white actors were hired to play characters from African mythology or such.)

Of course, casting villains can be politically tricky because it can be "damned if you do, damned if you don't." There will always be people upset by villains of color.
(Sometimes "whitewashing" can be done for purposes of political correctness, in which case it can be obnoxious. I had no interest in seeing the movie of Tom Clancy's [i]The Sum of All Fears[/i], when I learned the terrorist masterminds in the story had been changed from Islamists to neo-Nazis (not out of some racism, but because this seemed to me a spineless pc attempt to avoid "controversy." Islamists are more relevant to current geo-political reality than Nazis, now a hollywood cliche.)

In any case, this silliness over Bane and such seems to be more nonsense by those who are constantly looking for things to get racially offended over.
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in marvels ultimate comic book line fury is black. that line has been going on for years. they based some of avengers stuff off the ultimates line like caps uniform, thors costume, fury being black and so on. marvel has 2 main lines. one is the marvel 616 universe. this has been going on since stan lee created most of the charecters. the other is the ultimates line which was started years ago but is different than the main 616 universe.

[PhuturePriest]

I only read the first page, but my contribution is I won't be watching it. Like the majority of Americans I find the possibility of getting shot not worth it. There's about a 0000000000000.1% chance this will happen again, but I think I can wait until it comes out on DVD. I was never into comic books anyway.

[Jaime]

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Saw it. Meh.

[spoiler]A decent film. [i]Extraordinarily [/i]predictable. Even the 'twist' is visible a mile away if you know anything about the central characters (and their progeny!) in the Trilogy.

The little details that seem to stretch the limits of belief also irritate the poo out of me; "Oh you have a vertebrae sticking out of your back, I'll just punch it into place"; "Oh you just fell 200 feet with a just rope tied around your waist, not a big deal. I'm sure that wouldn't snap your spine"; "Oh a mega-city is cut off from humanity for months, nobody has to worry about food."

Maybe wait until the Blu-Ray comes out. [/spoiler]

Ignore what I wrote, it's just the cynic in me. I'll probably like it better the next time I see it.
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you sir... Nailed it!!