The Dark Knight Rises Theory

[Groo the Wanderer]

no he isn't - he's a hack. it's MY perogative as to the level of respect i have for a person, not yours. and you are still a buttknuckle

[havok579257]

[quote name='BG45' timestamp='1342713046' post='2457018']
I swear I hate Rush and the Obama campaign, because BOTH of them have said Bane is a toss out to Bain Capital and Romney. I hate to tell them this, but the character Bane was introduced in the comics in 1993, before Romney worked at Bain. Plus a lot of we fans are kinda ticked that they whitewashed a South American supervillain. Of course, if I'm right in my theory that he kills Batman, the political undertones would erupt into racist bickering that Gotham'sGreat White Hope was slain by someone who had different skin pigmentation; which could be why Bane is whiter than I am now.
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this comment is completely asanine. you really think christopher nolan was scared of political correctness so that's why he casted tom hardy? seriously, are you one of these insane conspericy theroy guys who see's aliens everywhere? Nolan chose tom hardy because it was tom hardy and his acting. he chose him because he is an incredible actor. go watch the movie and see why he chose tom hardy as bane. after that then you can come back an throw your racial theories out left and right.

also your comment is racist about bane's ethnicity. if you haven't seen the movie then your not sure what ethnicity bane is, now do you?

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='havok579257' timestamp='1342888270' post='2457576']
this comment is completely asanine. you really think christopher nolan was scared of political correctness so that's why he casted tom hardy? seriously, are you one of these insane conspericy theroy guys who see's aliens everywhere? Nolan chose tom hardy because it was tom hardy and his acting. he chose him because he is an incredible actor. go watch the movie and see why he chose tom hardy as bane. after that then you can come back an throw your racial theories out left and right.

also your comment is racist about bane's ethnicity. if you haven't seen the movie then your not sure what ethnicity bane is, now do you?
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He did see the movie. And your senseless accusations against his character are rude and uncalled for.

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='havok579257' timestamp='1342888270' post='2457576']


this comment is completely asanine. you really think christopher nolan was scared of political correctness so that's why he casted tom hardy? seriously, are you one of these insane conspericy theroy guys who see's aliens everywhere? Nolan chose tom hardy because it was tom hardy and his acting. he chose him because he is an incredible actor. go watch the movie and see why he chose tom hardy as bane. after that then you can come back an throw your racial theories out left and right.

also your comment is racist about bane's ethnicity. if you haven't seen the movie then your not sure what ethnicity bane is, now do you?
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What BG said and what you've accused him of saying has no correlation, only what you've unjustly projected on him. He is not a fraking racist.

[havok579257]

[quote name='HisChildForever' timestamp='1342888855' post='2457578']
He did see the movie. And your senseless accusations against his character are rude and uncalled for.
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so is attacking nolan's person, or is it ok to make stuff up about people not here on this board? his comments that tom hardy was specifically picked because he is white so it would not be a minority to kill batman is wrong in so many ways.

[havok579257]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' timestamp='1342888954' post='2457579']
What BG said and what you've accused him of saying has no correlation, only what you've unjustly projected on him. He is not a fraking racist.
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yes because this is an altruistic statement and had no racial undertones at all...


Plus a lot of we fans are kinda ticked that they whitewashed a South American supervillain. Of course, if I'm right in my theory that he kills Batman, the political undertones would erupt into racist bickering that Gotham'sGreat White Hope was slain by someone who had different skin pigmentation; which could be why Bane is whiter than I am now

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='havok579257' timestamp='1342905886' post='2457639']


yes because this is an altruistic statement and had no racial undertones at all...


Plus a lot of we fans are kinda ticked that they whitewashed a South American supervillain. Of course, if I'm right in my theory that he kills Batman, the political undertones would erupt into racist bickering that Gotham'sGreat White Hope was slain by someone who had different skin pigmentation; which could be why Bane is whiter than I am now
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So he has a issue with a white guy getting the role that should have gone to someone who wasnt. Thats not racism If anything its anti-racism.

You just need to claim down.

Edited July 21, 2012 by KnightofChrist

[ardillacid]

Saw it. Meh.

[spoiler]A decent film. [i]Extraordinarily [/i]predictable. Even the 'twist' is visible a mile away if you know anything about the central characters (and their progeny!) in the Trilogy.

The little details that seem to stretch the limits of belief also irritate the poo out of me; "Oh you have a vertebrae sticking out of your back, I'll just punch it into place"; "Oh you just fell 200 feet with a just rope tied around your waist, not a big deal. I'm sure that wouldn't snap your spine"; "Oh a mega-city is cut off from humanity for months, nobody has to worry about food."

Maybe wait until the Blu-Ray comes out. [/spoiler]

Ignore what I wrote, it's just the cynic in me. I'll probably like it better the next time I see it.

[BG45]

[quote name='havok579257' timestamp='1342888270' post='2457576']
this comment is completely asanine. you really think christopher nolan was scared of political correctness so that's why he casted tom hardy? seriously, are you one of these insane conspericy theroy guys who see's aliens everywhere? Nolan chose tom hardy because it was tom hardy and his acting. he chose him because he is an incredible actor. go watch the movie and see why he chose tom hardy as bane. after that then you can come back an throw your racial theories out left and right.

also your comment is racist about bane's ethnicity. if you haven't seen the movie then your not sure what ethnicity bane is, now do you?
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1) Grow up.

2) Learn to spell.

3) I saw the film, Bane was definitely very white in it, because he is indeed played by Tom Hardy. I'm not saying Hardy isn't a good actor, he is. He played his role well and was very creepy with his pronouncements when they weren't muffled by that mask prosthetic. However I wasn't posting a review of the film out of respect for those who died at the Colorado shooting, because I saw it the morning of the shooting.

4) I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

5) I'm not a racist. A Latina friend is the one who pointed out to me that Bane had been white washed in the first place. Then a simple Google search showed that fans were kinda upset about that; which I can't blame them for. Given Nolan's trilogy is very thinly veiled politically, it wouldn't have been that much of a stretch. Even if that wasn't the case, it's not something that really needed changed.

To preserve the spoilerific nature of the film:
[spoiler]
I was wrong and Batman didn't die. Though having Talia Al'Ghoul, the daughter of the Demon's Head, try to take out Batman was a twist I had not expected and well worth it, even if the scar on her back did give it away that Miranda Tate was Ra's daughter Talia.

Also I felt it was kind of cheap that Bruce faked his death to even Alfred, until the Parisian cafe, in order to disappear with Selena Kyle.[/spoiler]

Kudos to Nolan however, for not going the route of the 90s animated series and taking Bane into walking racial stereotype territory by essentially making him a Lucha Libre wrestler who lacked the intelligence that truly makes Bane, well, Bane. Also I did like the mask being for respiration and to hide deformity rather than having Bane be covered in cheesy looking tubes that should have been feeding him Venom to do his super strength. Also kudos for not naming the prison or the nation it was in, the viewers would have probably realized that the nation of [url="http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Bane"]Santa Prisca[/url] wasn't real.

Here's what I said btw:
[quote]Of course, if I'm right in my theory that he kills Batman, the political undertones would erupt into racist bickering that Gotham'sGreat White Hope was slain by someone who had different skin pigmentation; which could be why Bane is whiter than I am now.[/quote]

Notice how I point out Bane is whiter than I am now. Notice how I say absolutely nothing about Tom Hardy or his acting skills or his being whiter than me as being a reason for selecting him as an actor? This flies totally in the face of your statement:

[quote]so is attacking nolan's person, or is it ok to make stuff up about people not here on this board? his comments that tom hardy was specifically picked because he is white so it would not be a minority to kill batman is wrong in so many ways.[/quote]

I also fail to see how I made up anything, because I said that I suspected something. This isn't an attack on Nolan's person, nor making anything up about him. If anything, it's a testament to my respect for his considering every angle when he prepares a film. I suspect, after seeing the film, that Tom Hardy was Bane more because Nolan was more at ease working with him after Inception and held his abilities in great regard, as a number of the cast were brought on board from that Nolan film.

As for the racial bickering...well, what is your thread hijack all about except racial bickering over Bane? Anyhow, I'm done addressing this pathetic character assassination attempt.

[BG45]

Actually sorry, edit time ended so one last thing: My post you quoted and demand to know if I had even seen the movie? It was posted on Thursday, July 19th in the morning. The Dark Knight Rises premiered on Friday, July 20th at midnight.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

What happens when the gates close at disney land? A: D.A.D. disney after dark. the clowns turn into skelletons and there are the ghosts of the lost children haunting the whole place. Not a place i wan't to be after dark when the rides are shut down and the candy store iz closed. Kind of like the place pinochio went to and all the children turned into donkeys, except you don't need to be an alcoholic or smoker to get trapped when the dream turns into a nightmare.

Edited July 22, 2012 by Tab'le Du'Bah-Rye

[Lil Red]

[quote name='Tab'le Du'Bah-Rye' timestamp='1342944894' post='2457851']
What happens when the gates close at disney land? A: D.A.D. disney after dark. the clowns turn into skelletons and there are the ghosts of the lost children haunting the whole place. Not a place i wan't to be after dark when the rides are shut down and the candy store iz closed. Kind of like the place pinochio went to and all the children turned into donkeys, except you don't need to be an alcoholic or smoker to get trapped when the dream turns into a nightmare.
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[Amppax]

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1342970386' post='2457877']

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He might be talking about Batman Begins, when they vaporize the water supply. I don't know, I'm trying to relate this to the topic at hand.

[Socrates]

Overall, a satisfying conclusion to the Dark Knight trilogy. I still think [i]The Dark Knight[/i] is the best in series, but that was a hard act to top, especially with Heath Ledger's Joker. Bane, while not a bad villain, is comparatively generic. Didn't quite have the same feeling of "realism" that made TDK especially compelling, but was a bit more fantastical (as is everything involving The League of Shadows, etc.)

I could say more, but will refrain to avoid giving away any spoilers (though most of the twists and such were not particularly shocking to those "in the know")

I didn't see TDKR as being a partisan political movie, either right or left. All that "Bane=Bain" nonsense and the surrounding "controversy" is beyond moronic.

Though I think the film did touch on the dangers surrounding class warfare, and how it can easily be exploited by evil men (as it has historically multiple times in the past). The general premise is not so far-fetched as it might seem, if things get particularly bad. Nolan has cited Dickens' [i]A Tale of Two Cities [/i](set during the French Revolution) as an influence, and the events of Bane's "revolution" in Gotham are clearly based on the historical events of the French Revolution.

Also absurd is this ridiculous bickering over Bane's skin-color. Get a life, people.

Edited July 22, 2012 by Socrates

[Socrates]

[quote name='Tab'le Du'Bah-Rye' timestamp='1342944894' post='2457851']
What happens when the gates close at disney land? A: D.A.D. disney after dark. the clowns turn into skelletons and there are the ghosts of the lost children haunting the whole place. Not a place i wan't to be after dark when the rides are shut down and the candy store iz closed. Kind of like the place pinochio went to and all the children turned into donkeys, except you don't need to be an alcoholic or smoker to get trapped when the dream turns into a nightmare.
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Drugs are bad.