Jimmy Carter....belch!

[Papist]

I heard this while listening to a podcast. So, I googled it. Sure enough, Jimmy Carter outs Blessed John Paul II as a fundamentalist....among other things.

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I was on the north lawn of the White House in October 1979 when a beaming Jimmy Carter welcomed Pope John Paul II to the Executive Mansion, the trademark presidential teeth amply displayed as the Baptist Sunday school teacher gave the 264th Bishop of Rome a two-handed handshake. All seemed sweetness and light. But not so, Carter avers. Now he says he had a harsh exchange over the “Pope’s perpetuation of the subservience of women,” after which the two locked horns on liberation theology. John Paul’s adherence to settled Catholic doctrine, Carter charges, made him a kind of “fundamentalist,” a category of Bad People who, Carter has written, “are often angry and sometimes resort to verbal or even physical abuse against those who interfere with the implementation of their agenda.”
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[url="http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2012/04/jimmy-carter-biblical-scholar-and-theologian"]http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2012/04/jimmy-carter-biblical-scholar-and-theologian[/url]

[homeschoolmom]

Who gives a croutons about what Jimmy Carter thinks about anything anymore? Guy's just trying to create some kind of legacy for himself other than "Worst President of the 20th Century."

[Vincent Vega]

From wiki:
"[b]Fundamentalism[/b][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] is the demand for a strict adherence to specific theological doctrines usually understood as a reaction against [/size][/font][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Christianity"]Modernist theology"[/url]
I'll take it.

[Papist]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' timestamp='1335813390' post='2425283']
Who gives a croutons about what Jimmy Carter thinks about anything anymore? Guy's just trying to create some kind of legacy for himself other than "Worst President of the 20th Century."
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I take it his NIV bible commentary is not on your Amazon wish list.

[dominicansoul]

imho, this actually makes Pope John Paul II look very good....

[4588686]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' timestamp='1335813390' post='2425283']
Who gives a croutons about what Jimmy Carter thinks about anything anymore? Guy's just trying to create some kind of legacy for himself other than "Worst President of the 20th Century."
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I think he already has something of a legacy in brokering one of the most important diplomatic breakthroughs in the entire 20th century: the Camp David Accords

Edited April 30, 2012 by Hasan

[Papist]

[quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1335815870' post='2425300']
imho, this actually makes Pope John Paul II look very good....
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Excellent point. It's like Pelosi calling me a bad Catholic.

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='Papist' timestamp='1335815701' post='2425298']
I take it his NIV bible commentary is not on your Amazon wish list.
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That would be correct.

[CatherineM]

The first time I voted, I got to vote against him. Seems like a long time ago now.

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1335816123' post='2425303']
I think he already has something of a legacy in brokering one of the most important diplomatic breakthroughs in the entire 20th century: the Camp David Accords
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Seems there is more work to do.

[img]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1X8nQqcL3mA/Tv9mRcgBttI/AAAAAAAAAjQ/-2TEO3ZyHM4/s0/Church_attacks_from_January_2011.jpg[/img]

[4588686]

[quote name='Brother Adam' timestamp='1335896449' post='2425706']
Seems there is more work to do.

[img]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1X8nQqcL3mA/Tv9mRcgBttI/AAAAAAAAAjQ/-2TEO3ZyHM4/s0/Church_attacks_from_January_2011.jpg[/img]
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Um, it's really not the President's job to prevent vandalism. Jimmy Carter is hardly my favorite President but he bears tremendous responsibility for solving one of the most pressing geo-political problems in one of the most strategically vital parts of the world and he deserves credit for that.

[Skinzo]

John Paul II was Catholic, period. Adding "fundamentalist" to the mix is just Carter's way of continuing his "ad hominem" style of attacking those he disagrees with. I remember his 1980 campaign well in which he constantly attacked Reagan in the same fashion. Republicans must miss Jimmy Carter, he did so much to grow the party.
As to the Camp David accords, those have had a minimal effect on the Middle East nightmare which remains as difficult as ever.

S.

[4588686]

[quote name='Skinzo' timestamp='1335911313' post='2425814']
As to the Camp David accords, those have had a minimal effect on the Middle East nightmare which remains as difficult as ever.

S.
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On what planet is peace between Egypt and Israel a happening of minimal effect?

Edited May 1, 2012 by Hasan

[Mercy me]

[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1335913228' post='2425825']
On what planet is peace between Egypt and Israel a happening of minimal effect?
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What peace? Are you referring to the period that ended with the "Arab Spring"? Actually, I will give Carter credit for the Camp David accords. It was nice while it lasted but the damage that Carter wrought on the foreign relations front has never been overcome. You need look no further than Iran.

[Skinzo]

I'm not going to spend much time on this, as it's pretty obvious. Peace? It's a pretty cold peace between Israel and Egypt. That was a deal between Sadat and Begin anyway, neither of which are any longer on the scene. Ancient history really. Moreover, Egypt is only one of the several Arab nations in the area. The whole area remains a tinder box capable of igniting at any time. Egyptians themselves never had any say in the "peace process" and it's anyone's guess how they feel now.
The Palestinian problem remains as intractable as ever.

S.