Catechism Was Not Written To Please You.

[MissScripture]

[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1335728569' post='2424851']
I believe there is a misunderstanding here. I love to see their faces when they're like "Wait, I can't do what now?! Are you kidding me?!" It's funny to me because I had much the same reaction, but I got over it. I take it much more seriously if the person is unwilling to submit to the Church's authority and try to help them, but there's nothing wrong with laughing at a reaction. Perhaps the word "distraught" was the wrong one to use?
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I still don't see how it's a laughing matter. Seems more like you should react with compassion and understanding and helpfulness rather than laughing at them.

[MissyP89]

[quote name='Norseman82' timestamp='1335733964' post='2424899']
Let's also not forget the tension that occurs when the kids finally realize that mommy and daddy are going to hell because they are cohabiting, or divorced/remarried or otherwise remarried outside the church, blowing off Mass on Sunday, cussing like drunken sailors, etc.
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It's the greatest feeling EVER, let me tell you! It's even better when you start to look at everyone around you in that light. Really makes for a joy-filled, hopeful spirituality.

[MissScripture]

[quote name='Norseman82' timestamp='1335733964' post='2424899']
Let's also not forget the tension that occurs when the kids finally realize that mommy and daddy are going to hell because they are cohabiting, or divorced/remarried or otherwise remarried outside the church, blowing off Mass on Sunday, cussing like drunken sailors, etc.
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You mean when kids realize that NO ONE is perfect and we all have sins that we need to work on and maybe shouldn't go around pointing fingers at everyone else?

[Winchester]

[quote name='Norseman82' timestamp='1335733964' post='2424899']
Let's also not forget the tension that occurs when the kids finally realize that mommy and daddy are going to hell because they are ... cussing like drunken sailors, etc.
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I guess I'm flooped, then.

[Maximilianus]

...but you are not a sailor.

[Winchester]

[quote name='Maximilianus' timestamp='1335743030' post='2424974']
...but you are not a sailor.
[/quote]Soy capitan, soy capitan, soy capitan.

[PhuturePriest]

[quote name='MissScripture' timestamp='1335737712' post='2424941']
You mean when kids realize that NO ONE is perfect and we all have sins that we need to work on and maybe shouldn't go around pointing fingers at everyone else?
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It's at times like this when I regret having blown all of my props on Lil Red.

[MissyP89]

I don't think she regrets it.

[PhuturePriest]

Did I ever say that they burst into tears and I start laughing? No, so stop assuming that. Assume I have things to do in my day and I sometimes don't say all that I want to. I laugh when they're like "Seriously? Man..." As stated, I take it very seriously when they're freaked out. As shocking as this may seem to you, I'm actually seen as a bit of a therapist among my friends and they always come to me when they have problems. I'm actually a pretty caring person. Maybe they come to me because I like to give out hugs?

I'm not angry, I just don't know how to say this any other way. I just don't like it when people assume things and don't take the time to say "Wait, do you mean *blank*, or did you just not phrase that right?" I thank you all for trying to help me, but criticizing me over an assumption isn't very helpful.

Edited April 30, 2012 by FuturePriest387

[Norseman82]

[quote name='MissScripture' timestamp='1335737712' post='2424941']
You mean when kids realize that NO ONE is perfect and we all have sins that we need to work on and maybe shouldn't go around pointing fingers at everyone else?
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Yeah, like THAT line would have gone far in the era I was growing up in... what it would have gotten my generation was either a swift swat in the butt or a tongue-lashing that would make a marine drill sergeant cower in fear. No "Gee, Johhny, you're correct - kumbaya, now let's go make a banner".

What really happens is that sooner or later kids either will see the mixed signals and either not take the Church or their parents seriously (or both), fostering teen rebellion from which they may never recover and return to the Church, or they will realize that their parents are hypocrites, either when the parents try to use religion to discipline the kids, or when the kid actually tries to live out what he/she learns in Catholic school/religious education only to have the parents undo it at home, which is what Jesus prophesied when He stated He came to bring division and that family members would be set against each other.

Honestly, what are some parents thinking these days? If they want their kid to get a good Catholic education and foundation and have peace in the home and family, they need to be on the same page as the Church and be a good example to their kids, otherwise they are sabotaging their efforts and asking for trouble. That's all I was trying to get at.

Edited April 30, 2012 by Norseman82

[Vincent Vega]

Something a little funny about a single man telling people how to raise children. It's like a 15 year old...well, I suppose trying to tell people how to raise children.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

[quote name='Norseman82' timestamp='1335733964' post='2424899']
Let's also not forget the tension that occurs when the kids finally realize that mommy and daddy are going to hell because they are cohabiting, or divorced/remarried or otherwise remarried outside the church, blowing off Mass on Sunday, cussing like drunken sailors, etc.
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Who said anyone is going to hell, and if they are is it not between them and GOD, to alert somone to a sin is not to condemn if your condemning tham than i think one would be playing GOD or the devil perhaps? I was told that my mum and dad where going to hell because they got divorced, so i do understand but the sarcasm of this sight, you all seem to be addicted to it, and i feel it comes up at the worst times when matters are to be taken more seriously.

[Amppax]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1335742460' post='2424967']
I guess I'm flooped, then.
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THAT'S not what that said a couple of hours ago. :rollseyes:

[missionseeker]

[quote name='Norseman82' timestamp='1335752573' post='2425043']
Yeah, like THAT line would have gone far in the era I was growing up in... what it would have gotten my generation was either a swift swat in the butt or a tongue-lashing that would make a marine drill sergeant cower in fear. No "Gee, Johhny, you're correct - kumbaya, now let's go make a banner".


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[center][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)]AND Jesus went unto mount Olivet. [/background][/size][/font][/color][url="http://bible.cc/john/8-2.htm"][b]2[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came to him, and sitting down he taught them. [/background][/size][/font][/color][url="http://bible.cc/john/8-3.htm"][b]3[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] And the scribes and the Pharisees bring unto him a woman taken in adultery: and they set her in the midst, [/background][/size][/font][/color][url="http://bible.cc/john/8-4.htm"][b]4[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] And said to him: Master, this woman was even now taken in adultery. [/background][/size][/font][/color][url="http://bible.cc/john/8-5.htm"][b]5[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] Now Moses in the law commanded us to stone such a one. But what sayest thou? [/background][/size][/font][/color][url="http://bible.cc/john/8-6.htm"][b]6[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] And this they said tempting him, that they might accuse him. But Jesus bowing himself down, wrote with his finger on the ground. [/background][/size][/font][/color][url="http://bible.cc/john/8-7.htm"][b]7[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] When therefore they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said to them: He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. [/background][/size][/font][/color][url="http://bible.cc/john/8-8.htm"][b]8[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] And again stooping down, he wrote on the ground. [/background][/size][/font][/color][url="http://bible.cc/john/8-9.htm"][b]9[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] But they hearing this, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest. And Jesus alone remained, and the woman standing in the midst. [/background][/size][/font][/color][url="http://bible.cc/john/8-10.htm"][b]10[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] Then Jesus lifting up himself, said to her: Woman, where are they that accused thee? Hath no man condemned thee? [/background][/size][/font][/color][url="http://bible.cc/john/8-11.htm"][b]11[/b][/url][color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)] Who said: No man, Lord. And Jesus said: Neither will I condemn thee. Go, and now sin no more.[/background][/size][/font][/color][/center]


[color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)]Funny thing... no stones.... no beatings... no yelling.... no hard words. [/background][/size][/font][/color]

[color=#001320][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(249, 253, 255)]And yet Jesus healed her soul, and made the others recognize that they all had sin. how is beating/laughing at/deriding others until they become bitter a better route? [/background][/size][/font][/color]

Edited April 30, 2012 by missionseeker

[dominicansoul]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1335753274' post='2425048']
Something a little funny about a single man telling people how to raise children.
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...this is something i've heard other catholics say about priests telling them how to raise their children, since they are "single"...and i've even heard some say priests can't tell them anything about their sex lives, because, you know, they are celibate