Question

[Autumn Dusk]

[quote name='IcePrincessKRS' timestamp='1334244265' post='2416383']
Are you on a phone or something? Sometimes they don't show up on mobile devices.
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[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1334244315' post='2416384']
well, he's posting videos. perhaps you need to update something or another on your computer? (i don't know what you'd have to update, just a suggestion)
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School computer which probably has protection against embedded stuff...and sometimes on my phone...which would explain why BOTH appear not to have anything.

Someone wanna do me a favor and post the link or give a short explanation?

[Lil Red]

it was a clip from Talledega Nights.

[Autumn Dusk]

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1334245239' post='2416393']
it was a clip from Talledega Nights.
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Thanks. I still don't quite get it, but thanks for letting me in on the mystery.

[Jesus_lol]

well, then there is your problem.

though asking winchester for props was a courageous if pointless venture,

Edited April 12, 2012 by Jesus_lol

[Slappo]

[quote name='franciscanheart' timestamp='1334177796' post='2415960']
[Emphasis mine] I agree only with the bold section above.

(Please refer to color codes for the following.)
[color=#ff0000]Red section[/color] -- This is not how you discern religious life, in my experience; this is, rather, how you discern communities. Important: KEEP READING.

Black [b](bold)[/b] section -- This is how you discern your Vocation, period. Well, that's my experience with it and what I was taught growing up. Learning about religious life and visiting communities doesn't have to be about figuring out if you're being called to be a religious. Growing up, we see marriage being lived as a vocation EVERY SINGLE DAY. It doesn't matter how fault-ridden the relationship is, it is still the vocation on display. We don't get to live in convents every day of our young lives! Still, we must spend our time in prayer and adoration to know what the Lord wills for our lives.

[color=#008000]Green section[/color] -- Going to visit religious communities is, in my mind, the equivalent of getting to hang out with people of the opposite sex. We experience each other constantly; there is plenty of opportunity to get a general idea of what someone is like. If inquiring more about a community's practices had to be related to the vocation of marriage, I'd imagine it something like asking a potential partner about their hobbies, belief systems, and vocation ideas. It's not exactly the same, but it's comparable. In both situations, each party has to determine if the fit will be "good" or "right", but not necessarily that every opinion is the same or that every day will be filled with rainbows and unicorns and bunnies (if you're in to those things).
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I didn't discern that i wasn't called to religious life until after I visited a community. If I didn't spend two weeks there I never could confidently say to myself that I was not called to religious life. I don't think prayer alone is the method to discern your vocation. Spending your entire childhood living within the context of a marriage (assuming your parents are married) is only useful if the marriage is a holy Catholic marriage. Some people I know really have that. I didn't so much. My parents were good parents but they did not give me an example of what marriage is supposed to be.

When I was younger and zealous about my faith I was spending 2+ hours a day in prayer discerning my vocation with the help of a spiritual director. When i wasn't praying I was reading spiritual books or hanging out with my two friends who went to the chapel and prayed with me daily (watching saint movies, talking about what we'd read, etc). It wasn't until I actually put myself in situations (at the advise of my spiritual director none the less) where I could discern religious life or marriage that I was able to find where I was called. I visited a religious community and then 2 months later I met my wife at a meeting for the Steubenville Mission Trip sponsored by FUS. Now, if I hadn't spent that serious amount of time praying daily and spending serious God time I would not be as sure as I am that i followed His calling. But I don't think it can be limited to just prayer.

I'll admit that the speed dating reference wasn't a very good one lol. When I wrote that I was thinking of some of the vocations trips that some dioceses have where 10 people get on a bus and drive to visit 7 communities in a few days. That's not really realistic as to how you pick your community. It might give you some insight as to certain things you really liked and certain things you didn't like but... it's also not the typical way to seriously go discern a community .

[Autumn Dusk]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1334245296' post='2416395']
well, then there is your problem.
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It must be winchester. I just saw the clip someone posted at the end of the meetup thread.

[franciscanheart]

[quote name='Autumn Dusk' timestamp='1334245358' post='2416397']
It must be winchester. I just saw the clip someone posted at the end of the meetup thread.
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I still don't have time to respond to the post in which you called me a quack; I do, however, have a quick second to call BS. Videos not showing from a single poster in a situation that makes you look like a real ... well, not so amesome? Doubtful.

If I'm wrong, please disregard.

[Autumn Dusk]

[quote name='franciscanheart' timestamp='1334247541' post='2416412']
I still don't have time to respond to the post in which you called me a quack; I do, however, have a quick second to call BS. Videos not showing from a single poster in a situation that makes you look like a real ... well, not so amesome? Doubtful.

If I'm wrong, please disregard.
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Chill out. Take a midol if necesary. I can post some screen shots if you really want. It's more likely the SOURCE of the video, not the poster themselves.

I didn't say you're a quack, I said you're full of it. Mostly becuase you make the assumption that in this day in age marrigage (here meaning faithful Catholic Marriage) is the "norm" and that resources for young and even older adults are handed out like candy. Sorry. Maybe it's my area, maybe you live in a huggabear Catholic world, but I don't see it. At all, and I'm highly involved with two dioces (one being an archdioceses). They have great programs for teens, some for young adults, a TON of vocational oppurtunites but marriage is not a focus. Every week in church we pray for an increse in vocations to priesthood and the religious life, yet most of the people in the church under 40 are not married/living their vows.

[franciscanheart]

[quote name='Autumn Dusk' timestamp='1334251802' post='2416436']
Chill out. Take a midol if necesary.
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Midol isn't necessary. And I'll chill out when USAirways asks for my hand in marriage. MEANING NEVER. (This is a joke. Please don't be so serious or I will have to laugh at you.)

[quote name='Autumn Dusk' timestamp='1334251802' post='2416436']
Mostly becuase you make the assumption that in this day in age marrigage (here meaning faithful Catholic Marriage) is the "norm" and that resources for young and even older adults are handed out like candy.
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I'd like for you to highlight SPECIFICALLY where I stated or implied that. Because I'm pretty sure that's not what I said. No wait, I'm definitely sure. [b]That's not what I said.[/b]

[Autumn Dusk]

[quote name='franciscanheart' timestamp='1334252689' post='2416446']
Midol isn't necessary. And I'll chill out with USAirways asks for my hand in marriage. MEANING NEVER. (This is a joke. Please don't be so serious or I will have to laugh at you.)


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I really don't care who you hang out with/marry other than to give them my condolences.

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I'd like for you to highlight SPECIFICALLY where I stated or implied that. Because I'm pretty sure that's not what I said. No wait, I'm definitely sure. [b]That's not what I said.[/b]
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Errr.

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[quote]Spiritual directors, youth ministers, other married lay people. [b]I would argue there are far more resources available for married people these days than for people discerning religious life! I know plenty of holy, married, lay people in the church [/b]who would be more than happy (and often are) to talk with singles looking for a spouse and/or couples who are discerning whether they are called to a marriage with each other.

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[franciscanheart]

[quote name='Autumn Dusk' timestamp='1334252880' post='2416449']
I really don't care who you hang out with/marry other than to give them my condolences.
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Get in line.

[quote name='Autumn Dusk' timestamp='1334252880' post='2416449']
Errr.

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That's a gross misinterpretation of what I actually wrote, but I can see where someone with such a black-hole, "OMB WE'RE ALL DOOMED THIS SOCIETY IS SO MESSED UP" outlook on life would read it that way. More later, friend.

[Autumn Dusk]

[quote name='franciscanheart' timestamp='1334253026' post='2416452']
Get in line.


That's a gross misinterpretation of what I actually wrote, but I can see where someone with such a black-hole, "oh my goodness (don't blasphemy) WE'RE ALL DOOMED THIS SOCIETY IS SO MESSED UP" outlook on life would read it that way. More later, friend.
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I didn't say we're doomed at all and I took the paragraph verbatium. What in the world are you getting at? I'm just saying there aren't any/enough resources that prepare teens and young adults for marriage. Most dioceses DO offer programs, retreats, conferences for those discerning religious vocations. They may throw in a marriage retreat here or there but it's rare and it's ment for those married a while. Those who don't have good examples at home (more often than not) and many times not in the church are stuck. I'm not saying we're doomed becuase society is messed up, but we are making life unnecessarly difficult for those who want to live a holy marriage/engagement/dating becuase the only resorces are sites that judge relationships by sex and living together.

[franciscanheart]

[quote name='Autumn Dusk' timestamp='1334253325' post='2416454']
I didn't say we're doomed at all and I took the paragraph verbatium. What in the world are you getting at? I'm just saying there aren't any/enough resources that prepare teens and young adults for marriage. Most dioceses DO offer programs, retreats, conferences for those discerning religious vocations. They may throw in a marriage retreat here or there but it's rare and it's ment for those married a while. Those who don't have good examples at home (more often than not) and many times not in the church are stuck. I'm not saying we're doomed becuase society is messed up, but we are making life unnecessarly difficult for those who want to live a holy marriage/engagement/dating becuase the only resorces are sites that judge relationships by sex and living together.
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You're starting to sound more rational. I'll respond in just a little while. Thanks for conversing with me.

[Slappo]

[quote name='franciscanheart' timestamp='1334247541' post='2416412']
I still don't have time to respond to the post in which you called me a quack; I do, however, have a quick second to call BS. Videos not showing from a single poster in a situation that makes you look like a real ... well, not so amesome? Doubtful.

If I'm wrong, please disregard.
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I can't see the video's when I'm on my work computer either. All I see is a blank space. Youtube is blocked on State computers because of bandwidth conservation (and likely almost every other non-youtube video link). And I can't see those video's when their posted by anyone j_lol winnie, etc. It always shows up as just a blank space about the size of a youtube video .

[Slappo]

The only reason I had any resources available on dating was that I was attending one of the most authentically Catholic universities in the country and at home I had an amazing priest as a spiritual director.

There are no "singles nights" or anything like that in most dioceses. There aren't singles retreats. There aren't homilies given geared towards finding a spouse or discerning marriage.

Also... you can't know for a fact that you are called to the religious life until you take solemn vows, and you can't know for a fact that you are called to the married life until you take vows. You can discern as much as you want until your face turns blue, but it takes actually getting married or actually professing solemn vows to be sure of your vocation. Thats why I think discerning a religious order/diocese is a crucial part of discerning religious life and dating/engagement to an individual is a crucial part to discerning marriage. In theory God could send you revelations of what you are called to while you are levetating off the floor of the chapel, but in practicality you have to pursue the vocation to discern it. I was 100% in love with the [u][b]idea [/b][/u]of becoming a priest before I visited a religious community and was bored out of my mind for two weeks straight.