Amppax Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) [quote name='BigJon16' timestamp='1333995202' post='2414988'] Amppax is back. duh. [/quote] That I am, refreshed from a long and arduous Lent. What did I miss around here? And on topic I'll try to send it to my cousin, who I'm sure can translate it. That is, if you haven't found someone to before then. Edited April 9, 2012 by Amppax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1333993406' post='2414970'] Shut up, prescriptivist. Linguists are wholly unconcerned with orthography. [/quote] you young'un Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnneLine Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) I stayed after school with with a Dutch family when I was a kid. Interesting language.... spoken, it sounds a lot like German, but the spelling is... unique. Kind of like Gaelic.... apparently once you know what the letters mean it is phonetic, but it doesn't sound like you would think it would sound based on English.... which is kind of strange, considering that many of our words are from German... (but we've incorporated almost everything into English at one point or another..... WE have the odd language!) Good luck getting that transalation. I bet you could also find a transcript/info on him from the Dutch Carmelites if you can't get it any other way..... or ask a Dominican... they enjoy languages and studying things.... BTW, I agree that Titus Brandsma was a remarkable guy, and a strong voice for Catholic journalists! He's definitely worth getting to know better! For those who don't know of him, he was martyred during WWII for standing up to the Nazis.... here's a link to his story... [url="http://www.ewtn.com/library/MARY/TITUSLIF.HTM"]http://www.ewtn.com/...RY/TITUSLIF.HTM[/url] It reads in part (one could make a few subsitutions and think this news came from 2012 rather than 1942....) [color=#008000]The Nazi public relations bureau informed Dutch newspapers and journals that they had to accept advertisements and press releases emanating from official sources. Media personnel were told that "this measure which we have taken is based on the assumption that nothing may be omitted that may promote the unity of the Dutch nation."[/color] [color=#008000]Shortly after issuance of this memorandum, Archbishop De Jong summoned Titus to his chancery. "We will respond to them," he said. "Our answer must be 'No!' " He commissioned Titus, in his capacity as spiritual director of Catholic journalists, to convey the hierarchy's response personally to all Catholic editors in the Netherlands. On presenting this task the archbishop said: "Titus, you do understand this mission is dangerous. You do not have to undertake it."[/color] [color=#008000]The archbishop testified later,[/color] [color=#008000]Father Titus knew exactly what I said, and he freely and willingly accepted the duty.... The mission was necessary, for some of our editors disagreed with each other on what was allowed and in what cases they must disobey the new regulations because of their Catholic principles. Father Brandsma was the right man to explain our directives.[/color] [color=#008000]Titus wrote and began delivering to editors throughout the country a letter stating the bishops' directives and explaining the background. He encouraged the editors to resist Nazi demands while patiently explaining the various consequences of such resistance as well as of collaboration with occupation authorities. He concluded each visit with remarks along this line:[/color] [i][b][color=#008000]We have reached our limit. We cannot serve them. It will be our duty to refuse Nazi propaganda definitely if we wish to remain Catholic newspapers. Even if they threaten us with severe penalties, suspension or discontinuance of our newspapers, we cannot conform with their orders.[/color][/b][/i] [color=#008000]As he traveled from city to city, Titus was well aware that he was being shadowed by the Gestapo. Furthermore, someone informed the police of the purpose of his mission and the contents of his message.[/color] [color=#008000]Titus was a marked man.[/color] [color=#008000]Titus visited 14 editors before the Gestapo arrested him on Monday, January 19, 1942, at 6 p.m. at the Boxmeer monastery. He knelt and received the blessing of his superior. Leaving, he proudly wore in the lapel of his black clergy suit the insignia of a Knight of the Dutch Lion which he had received from Queen Wilhemina in August 1939. Police agents took him under guard to a prison at Scheveningen, a seaside port near The Hague. He was locked in cell 577.[/color] [color=#008000]"Imagine my going to jail at the age of 60," he said to his arresting officer.[/color] [color=#008000]"You should not have accepted the archbishop's commission," was the humorless reply.[/color] [color=#008000]Captain Hardegen, the tall, blond, always polite officer in charge of Titus' case, began his interrogation with the question: "Why have you disobeyed the regulations?"[/color] [color=#008000]"As a Catholic, I could have done nothing differently," Titus replied.[/color] [color=#008000]"You are a saboteur. Your church is trying to sabotage the orders of the occupying powers, to prevent the national socialistic philosophy of life from reaching the Dutch population."[/color] [color=#008000]Titus responded: "We must object to anything or any philosophy that is not in line with Catholic doctrine."....[/color] [b][i](Bolding and highlighting my own)[/i][/b] You'll have to read the rest for yourselves! SO MANY wonderful saints.... and only all eternity to get to know them all! Edited April 9, 2012 by AnneLine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth09 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) [font="arial, sans-serif"][color="#333333"]Yes.[/color][/font] [url="http://translate.google.com/#en|nl|Yes%2C%20Dutch%20is%20a%20language%2C%20I%20think.%0A%0A"]http://translate.goo...%20think.%0A%0A[/url] Edited April 9, 2012 by elizabeth09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the171 Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share Posted April 9, 2012 Yes please, amp! Ok. Matter resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 [right][img]http://www.jointhestylehighclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/breakfast-at-tiffanys-audrey-hepburn-1961.jpg[/img][/right] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 [quote name='the171' timestamp='1334003580' post='2415066'] Yes please, amp! Ok. Matter resolved. [/quote] Not quite, I haven't talked to my cousin in a long while, don't quite remember his contact info, I'm working on it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Joe Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 "If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much." - Joost from The Way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 [quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1334003936' post='2415071'] [right][img]http://www.jointhestylehighclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/breakfast-at-tiffanys-audrey-hepburn-1961.jpg[/img][/right] [/quote] shes dead so that kinda nulls language ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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the171 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Share Posted April 10, 2012 Old Joe, I was about to say that. Bahahahahaha!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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