vee Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 [img]http://christwire.org/wp-content/uploads/no-mexican.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lisa Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Public school my whole life, except for a Christian preschool. There was no Catholic school available, and we couldn't have afforded it anyway.. When a brand-new Catholic high school started up about 30 miles away, I secretly wanted to go, but I didn't bring it up with my parents because I knew they would be really hurt that they couldn't afford to send me and there was no way that I could get there daily. I continued going to my high school, where I did follow the wrong ideals in many ways... but I'm not sure if the school environment would have made the difference. My choices were not a product of the school; they were a product of my own sin and weakness. Alternatively, I developed my passion for agriculture, participated in lots of FFA activities that wouldn't have been available at a private school, and subsequently earned scholarships that are currently allowing me to graduate college debt-free. God has a plan Now I'm at a public university with a strong campus ministry, and it's been amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 We have a Catholic school system here but it is free and run by lay teachers. I attended this from kindergarten to grade six, then for gr six to graduation I attended public school. The biggest difference I noticed was in terms of charity and the attitude of the teachers. In the Catholic school they at least had teachers who tried to teach Catholic values and morality, in public school that was not important. Standards make the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 [quote name='LaPetiteSoeur' timestamp='1333240380' post='2411314'] Little known fact: students were hit by rulers in public school, too. Corporeal punishment wasn't just a Catholic school thing. [/quote] But were public school teachers supposed to be ambassadors of Christ and ministers to His Church and the world? That is the crux of the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 [quote name='Ice_nine' timestamp='1333294647' post='2411469'] But were public school teachers supposed to be [u]ambassadors of Christ and ministers to His Church and the world?[/u] That is the crux of the issue. [/quote] We all are, yet we are all human and fail, that is why we have the sacrament of Confession. The problem isnt in the failing and falling so much as it is in the not even bothering to try or simply reufsing to get up after falling. All teachers are humans not angels but that is not an excuse to do whatever. There are very good and very bad teachers in Catholic schools and public schools, just as there are anywhere that is why standards are important. Quality control. Good management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie12 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 [quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1333263687' post='2411418'] Exactly. all i know is, between my grandfathers abuse at the hands of austrian nuns and what he saw of [b]the catholic church aiding the nazis during ww2, he still has a long standing hatred for the catholic church.[/b](sorry for tangent) but i think thats a pretty concrete sample of why not all private catholic schooling is superior to public. it certainly didnt help him out. no not all nuns are terrible. but i dont think they would've have gotten a reputation for abusive behavior at schools if there wasnt somewhat of a history of that occuring. [/quote] What do you mean by this? From what I know Catholics were victims of the Nazi's along with the Jewish people. So, that wouldn't make much sense. can you explain what you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 [quote name='Annie12' timestamp='1333303456' post='2411509'] What do you mean by this? From what I know Catholics were victims of the Nazi's along with the Jewish people. So, that wouldn't make much sense. can you explain what you mean? [/quote] you would have to talk to him, he was the one conscripted into the german army, who actually was alive and there when all this was happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 i'm pretty sure a lot of German groups, including local churches, aided the nazis... ...not to speak with any disrespect about your grandfather, Jlol, but you admitted he hates the Catholic church. I don't think i would trust his judgement of what happened there. People are prone to exaggerate, especially against groups they hate. that's why we can't trust what we read in History books half the time... The church in Germany had its bad apples who went along with the nazi machine. But its totally wrong to say "the Catholic Church aided the Nazis." No the Catholic church did not aid the nazis. We have plenty of proof that the Church was an enemy of a long list of enemies the Nazis had. If a few parishes in Germany went along wiht Hitler, they went on their own, not wiht the blessing of the Catholic church. If one member of the Catholic Church goes around spewing hatred of the Jews it doesn't mean the Church condones anti-semitism. If one member goes around bashing homosexuals, it doesn't mean the Church condones physical abuse of those suffering with SSA. The Church will always have her Judases. But don't judge the Church for the actions these Judases take... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth09 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 There been an increasing number of students who are being home-school today then ever. If they are going to school, the parents will pull their children and then home school them. If you do not know already, the school, but mostly the Catholic school, are the ones that been suffering the most because parents can not affable it every school year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 [quote name='the171' timestamp='1333174449' post='2411049'] Ok, I have noticed a lot of people have this idea that public schoolers are SO IMMORAL, etc. I know PLENTY of public schoolers who are some of the holiest people I will ever know. I usually just laugh about it and I brush it off as a joke, but it is really ruffling my feathers... IF I HAD FEATHERS!! But I don't... But this is not the point!! Here's the money: you DON'T have to be home-schooled or educated at Catholic schools TO BE HOLY!! My vocation has been tested in public school, yes. I have been persecuted, yes. But this is found EVEN IN PAROCHIAL AND HOME-SCHOOLING. Another fact, I have found people who support my faith and my vocation even if they don't exactly agree with them. (public schoolers!) don't write us off just because we don't go to a flipping faith-based school. God calls us, too. (I am not saying that home-school and parochial school is bad. I am just pointing out something that has popped out at me latley. I have gone to public school all my life and I am transferring to a Catholic school for my Junior and Senior year. HS and CS are great opportunities. Just be extra thankful for what you have and don't look down on those who do not have that same opportunity.) Possibly incoherent rant: over. [/quote] Is that what people think, that public school students are "SO IMMORAL, etc."? I have not noticed that, at least that it being towards the students. I assure you that the public schools do not have a monopoly on immoral behavior. The Catholic High School in my city was ranked as the #1 for drug usage. Also, what is the "etc."? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 [quote name='the171' timestamp='1333174449' post='2411049'] Here's the money: [/quote] I can't help but notice this unfulfilled promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the171 Posted April 2, 2012 Author Share Posted April 2, 2012 Sorry, I ran out after I started typing. And idk why in the Sam Hill I put etc., etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrestia Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Whatev. I went to Catholic school for grades 1 through half on 7, public school for the rest of grade 7 through college. Kids are kids. There was no more morality in Catholic school than there was in public school. I have a bunch of friends who were homeschooled. Some are great, some are lame. Any perceived generalizations are based on a small sampling. By the way, I just got home from my aunt's funeral & haven't bothered to read all the replies above, so please forgive me if this is repetitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 [quote name='Adrestia' timestamp='1333406138' post='2412084'] Whatev. I went to Catholic school for grades 1 through half on 7, public school for the rest of grade 7 through college. Kids are kids. There was no more morality in Catholic school than there was in public school. I have a bunch of friends who were homeschooled. Some are great, some are lame. Any perceived generalizations are based on a small sampling. By the way, I just got home from my aunt's funeral & haven't bothered to read all the replies above, so please forgive me if this is repetitive. [/quote]My prayers for your aunt and your family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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