Basilisa Marie Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 [quote name='homeschoolmom' timestamp='1333199752' post='2411098'] Couldn't get past the first sentence. Why is a 7 year old watching Glee? [/quote] Glee was fun the first season. Then it turned into a giant vehicle for gay rights, and ONLY gay rights. Either way, it's definitely not a show for kids. Huffpo is croutons. People need to stop sexualizing their kids before they're ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totus Tuus Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Why you post link with no comment? No me gusta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filius_angelorum Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Not to trivialize this topic, but if one does let a seven year-old boy watch Glee, there is a good chance he will develop off-kilter sexual preferences. Just saying'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted March 31, 2012 Author Share Posted March 31, 2012 [quote name='Totus Tuus' timestamp='1333206552' post='2411137'] Why you post link with no comment? No me gusta. [/quote] cause I figured some other people might have something interesting to say about it *wishful thinking* and then I kind of used it to go on a tangent about how exhausting it is to care about people who think you're a hateful bigot for not embracing the glory of homosexuality. How much easier it would be to go all Burger King and say "have it your way" and leave them to their own (de)vices, but how that's probs not the right thing to do. Which I then used to go on a tangent about how I don't even think homosexuality exists as an orientation (certainly homogenital relations have, and have for all of human history). you know, something slightly above (or below depending how you look at it) trololololing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southern california guy Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Ice_nine' timestamp='1333211079' post='2411160'] cause I figured some other people might have something interesting to say about it *wishful thinking* and then I kind of used it to go on a tangent about how exhausting it is to care about people who think you're a hateful bigot for not embracing the glory of homosexuality. How much easier it would be to go all Burger King and say "have it your way" and leave them to their own (de)vices, but how that's probs not the right thing to do. Which I then used to go on a tangent about how I don't even think homosexuality exists as an orientation (certainly homogenital relations have, and have for all of human history). you know, something slightly above (or below depending how you look at it) trololololing [/quote] It certainly wouldn't be a trait that would get passed down from generation to generation. Definitely an aberration if somebody was truly born with that "orientation". Of course people started using the word "orientation" over "preference" because they didn't want to give the critics any room to argue the point. "Orientation" is so much stronger than "preference". The truth of the matter is that the kid liked the attention that he got from his parents when he said such a shocking thing -- and didn't really understand how trying to play that role would impact his life. And even worse his idiot parents were doing the same thing! The lady who wrote the article was sort of "showing off"... It just goes to show that the world is full of idiots! Edited March 31, 2012 by southern california guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 [quote name='filius_angelorum' timestamp='1333175808' post='2411059'] What to do when a seven year-old boy says he's gay? Well, ignoring the bad parenting that led him to self-label so early in life...[/quote] To suggest a young child says he's gay because his parents failed is idiocy. Not every parent has the luxury of being with their child every minute of the day, especially where schooling is concerned. Kids talk. And they can learn anywhere -- public, parochial [i]and [/i]homeschooling. But let's say the kid says at the age of three that he likes boys -- no label -- or acts in other ways that are distinctly effeminate. I (a girl, just so we're clear) knew that I liked boys, and liked them [i]a lot, [/i]well before a lot of my peers did. Awareness of those sort of feelings can and does begin young for a lot of kids. Does it mean they're going to stay that way or that they entirely understand it? No, not always. But it can. The vast majority of people with SSA are[i] [u][b]not[/b][/u] [/i]made gay by society or TV. It's [i][u][b]not[/b][/u][/i] something chosen, and [u][i][b]not[/b][/i][/u] something that happens because of negligence or bad parenting. Kindly ditch that theory, please. It's extremely insulting to those who have that cross and wish they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 [quote name='MissyP89' timestamp='1333214955' post='2411188'] Not every parent has the luxury of being with their child every minute of the day, especially where schooling is concerned. Kids talk. And they can learn anywhere -- public, parochial [i]and [/i]homeschooling. [/quote] Where did [b]that[/b] come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southern california guy Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) [quote name='MissyP89' timestamp='1333214955' post='2411188'] To suggest a young child says he's gay because his parents failed is idiocy. Not every parent has the luxury of being with their child every minute of the day, especially where schooling is concerned. Kids talk. And they can learn anywhere -- public, parochial [i]and [/i]homeschooling. But let's say the kid says at the age of three that he likes boys -- no label -- or acts in other ways that are distinctly effeminate. I (a girl, just so we're clear) knew that I liked boys, and liked them [i]a lot, [/i]well before a lot of my peers did. Awareness of those sort of feelings can and does begin young for a lot of kids. Does it mean they're going to stay that way or that they entirely understand it? No, not always. But it can. The vast majority of people with SSA are[i] [u][b]not[/b][/u] [/i]made gay by society or TV. It's [i][u][b]not[/b][/u][/i] something chosen, and [u][i][b]not[/b][/i][/u] something that happens because of negligence or bad parenting. Kindly ditch that theory, please. It's extremely insulting to those who have that cross and wish they didn't. [/quote] Making the words bold doesn't make the argument stronger. You need to back your assertions up with something to make your opinion more convincing. Edited March 31, 2012 by southern california guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) [quote name='homeschoolmom' timestamp='1333215456' post='2411191'] Where did [b]that[/b] come from? [/quote] He argued that a kid learned the gay label because of the parents allowing the child to be exposed to it. I interpreted that to mean that if the parents were more watchful and attentive, it wouldn't have happened. But as I mentioned in my post, it's not always possible for even the best parents to screen everything their kids are exposed to, especially if they're educated outside of the home. At the same time, parents who do what they can to guard their kids (i.e. by choosing to homeschool or send them to Catholic school) still can't guarantee this sort of thing won't happen, that's all. [quote name='southern california guy' timestamp='1333216114' post='2411196'] Making the words bold doesn't make the argument stronger. You need to back your assertions up with something to make your opinion more convincing. [/quote] I take it you're not the sort that accepts anecdotes as sufficient evidence, correct? Edited March 31, 2012 by MissyP89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 [quote name='MissyP89' timestamp='1333220580' post='2411215'] I take it you're not the sort that accepts anecdotes as sufficient evidence, correct? [/quote] or anything reasonable, despite citing sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southern california guy Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 [quote name='MissyP89' timestamp='1333220580' post='2411215'] I take it you're not the sort that accepts anecdotes as sufficient evidence, correct? [/quote] You're right. I like to write and I can come up with an anecdote for just about anything. In fact if I'm being bad I can "cheat" and force fit anecdotes -- even fake anecdotes -- to make something seem plausible. When you're talking human behavior psychology isn't as cut and dry as other scientific fields -- and shouldn't be viewed that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 well, in that case, SoCalGuy, since you are the one who first brought up that homosexuality is a learned thing, where bad parents are responsible, the burden of proof is on you to provide valid sources for that argument, not anecdotal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southern california guy Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 [quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1333221328' post='2411221'] or anything reasonable, despite citing sources. [/quote] Nick, I feel like you're like a little kid resorting to insults because you feel that your side is losing the debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 thats razzle dazzle, socalguy. but i have argued with you before. any plans on citing sources for your position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 [quote name='Kia ora' timestamp='1333178353' post='2411067'] Do seven year olds understand what being heterosexual is? [/quote] Which is kind of the whole point - at seven years of age, it's too young to be speculating about a kid's sexuality - he hasn't even hit puberty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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