Non-catholics Please Inform Me

[socalscout]

I have read a few post by non Catholic Christians about Faith and works.

They have told me that once you accept Christ as your personal saviour then your sins are forgiven for the past [i]and[/i] future.

Is this correct? I can see the logic for past sins but my future sins will be forgiven? Do I have to ask forgiveness or are they just forgiven? Do I have to be contrite?

Is this true? Who believes this?

If this is true then the 10 Commandments are moot, right. What does it matter if I covet, steal etc. I am forgiven anyway? There would no longer be 7 deadly sins.

This is confusing, if it is true.

[Livin_the_MASS]

[quote]They have told me that once you accept Christ as your personal saviour then your sins are forgiven for the past and future.[/quote]

This is not accurate, you have to go to the Sacrament of Confession to a priest and confess your sins. Salvation is a constant struggle, we take up our crosses everyday. St. Paul wrote to work out your salvation in fear and trembling. This is why we have Confession because we do fall, and Christ waits for us in the Confessional to do His work through His priest to give us His Divine Mercy.



[quote]Is this correct? I can see the logic for past sins but my future sins will be forgiven? Do I have to ask forgiveness or are they just forgiven? Do I have to be contrite?[/quote]

NO it is not correct. Like I said you must go to Confession and yes you must have a contrite heart!


[quote]If this is true then the 10 Commandments are moot, right. What does it matter if I covet, steal etc. I am forgiven anyway? There would no longer be 7 deadly sins.[/quote]

HAHA Yeah if you believe OSAS you THINK you have a free ride, but you don't, Jesus said if we truly loved Him we would keep His Commandments. In the end we will be judged according to our deeds (Rev. 20:12-13).

Hope this helps
In the love of Christ
Jason

[Mickey's_Girl]

I could be wrong, 'cause I'm not terribly familiar with all the ins and outs of once-saved-always-saved doctrine, but I think a Protestant's view of sin really depends on one's view of salvation.

I think the division goes this way:

Jesus died to pay the penalty for our sins. If we accept this gift of salvation, then we will be saved (however one thinks this plays out).

Now here's the difference: some denominations say that once you are saved, that nothing can take your salvation away. The reasoning goes like this: if you can't do anything to [b]save[/b] yourself, then how can what you do change the sacrifice that Jesus made? Current and former Calvinists can speak to this better than I can, so I'll leave it there.

Others (the more Arminian viewpoint) will say that you have freely accepted Jesus's gift of salvation, and so you can also reject it. Jesus's sacrifice was [b]enough [/b]to pay for all sins, past and present; as long as you are "moving in the right direction" (trying to follow the Lord and being obedient to Scripture and God's prompting in your life) then God's grace covers any temporary slip-up, even if you die in the middle of it. The general condition of the heart is what's key here. If you've rejected God to the point of saying, "I'm going to run my own life, rather than be obedient to you" and turn your back on Him for good, then you're letting go of the gift of salvation.

Under this view, you *do* have to ask forgiveness for sins, because although grace covers your "salvation", the unrepented sin interferes with your Christian walk, your relationship with God.

I hope this helps; definitely need more discussion of the other viewpoint.

MG

[Livin_the_MASS]

[quote name='Mickey's_Girl' date='May 6 2004, 04:44 PM'] I could be wrong, 'cause I'm not terribly familiar with all the ins and outs of once-saved-always-saved doctrine, but I think a Protestant's view of sin really depends on one's view of salvation.

I think the division goes this way:

Jesus died to pay the penalty for our sins. If we accept this gift of salvation, then we will be saved (however one thinks this plays out).

Now here's the difference: some denominations say that once you are saved, that nothing can take your salvation away. The reasoning goes like this: if you can't do anything to [b]save[/b] yourself, then how can what you do change the sacrifice that Jesus made? Current and former Calvinists can speak to this better than I can, so I'll leave it there.

Others (the more Arminian viewpoint) will say that you have freely accepted Jesus's gift of salvation, and so you can also reject it. Jesus's sacrifice was [b]enough [/b]to pay for all sins, past and present; as long as you are "moving in the right direction" (trying to follow the Lord and being obedient to Scripture and God's prompting in your life) then God's grace covers any temporary slip-up, even if you die in the middle of it. The general condition of the heart is what's key here. If you've rejected God to the point of saying, "I'm going to run my own life, rather than be obedient to you" and turn your back on Him for good, then you're letting go of the gift of salvation.

Under this view, you *do* have to ask forgiveness for sins, because although grace covers your "salvation", the unrepented sin interferes with your Christian walk, your relationship with God.

I hope this helps; definitely need more discussion of the other viewpoint.

MG [/quote]
Yes the heart is the key but you left out one of the biggest keys, one of the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven, Confession!

[Brother Adam]

"They have told me that once you accept Christ as your personal saviour then your sins are forgiven for the past and future."

Correct, the belief is Christ died for the penalty of all of your sins, temporal and eternal consequences, and once you have accepted Christ through prayer after hearing the preaching of the Word (some sects believe this MUST be the KJV bible), then you are forever sealed as a son of God and can never lose the inheritance of heaven.

[Brother Adam]

I suggest Charles Ryrie's Basic Theology for an introduction to non-Catholic corporate theology.