Opposite Sex Housemates

[PhuturePriest]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1334547739' post='2418526']
Check out the big brain on brad.
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Am I the only one that wants to give that smiley face a hug? It just looks so confused and in need of some assurance.

[Jesus_lol]

I just wanted to say, thanks to me not being extremely rich living in vancouver I had to share a house with an insane, ugly and horrible 55yr old woman(MT can attest to her mental state) for several months. I had my own room(though she broke into it frequently) but shared a bathroom and kitchen. It was probably one of the worst times in my life.

So if anyone wants to imply that our "cohabitation" was anything other than as platonic as possible(if hatred can be platonic), or that the situation was causing scandal, or that my 22 year old hormones made it just a matter of time before we succumbed to lust, be warned. I will spend the rest of my life tracking you down, before putting a rusty icepick in your heart.






so do what ya gotta do.

[Marie-Therese]

[quote name='Basilisa Marie' timestamp='1334547289' post='2418516']
Marie-Therese you are fantastic.
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Awwww...I find you excellent as well.

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1334548450' post='2418529']
I just wanted to say, thanks to me not being extremely rich living in vancouver I had to share a house with an insane, ugly and horrible 55yr old woman(MT can attest to her mental state) for several months. I had my own room(though she broke into it frequently) but shared a bathroom and kitchen. It was probably one of the worst times in my life.

So if anyone wants to imply that our "cohabitation" was anything other than as platonic as possible(if hatred can be platonic), or that the situation was causing scandal, or that my 22 year old hormones made it just a matter of time before we succumbed to lust, be warned. I will spend the rest of my life tracking you down, before putting a rusty icepick in your heart.


so do what ya gotta do.
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For real, that woman was crazy with a capital K. She was so daft you could sense it in the yard outside.

[PhuturePriest]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1334548450' post='2418529']
I just wanted to say, thanks to me not being extremely rich living in vancouver I had to share a house with an insane, ugly and horrible 55yr old woman(MT can attest to her mental state) for several months. I had my own room(though she broke into it frequently) but shared a bathroom and kitchen. It was probably one of the worst times in my life.

So if anyone wants to imply that our "cohabitation" was anything other than as platonic as possible(if hatred can be platonic), or that the situation was causing scandal, or that my 22 year old hormones made it just a matter of time before we succumbed to lust, be warned. I will spend the rest of my life tracking you down, before putting a rusty icepick in your heart.






so do what ya gotta do.
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A fifty-five year old woman is hardly two young people sharing an apartment together, which is what we have all been talking about.

[StClare_OraProNobis]

This will be my last post as well. I just want to highly recommend actually speaking to a priest, and not just any priest but one who is faithful to the church, regarding this question in the chance that anyone is actually concerned about forming their conscience. Best to turn to those chosen by Christ to lead us than to take our opinions about morality from each other on phatmass.

I know several priests who are concerned about the sin of scandal in this situation. I am pretty sure they are well-informed, you know, with their years in seminary and all.

Peace.

[cmotherofpirl]

See when I think of Church teaching and scandal, I think of this:
Matthew 7

1 Judge not, that you may not be judged,
2 For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged: and with what measure you mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why seest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye; and seest not the beam that is in thy own eye?
4 Or how sayest thou to thy brother: Let me cast the mote out of thy eye; and behold a beam is in thy own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam in thy own eye, and then shalt thou see to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Its not my business to assume two or more people's living arrangement is scandalous, unless they tell me it is. This is a college town, and I know way too many kids who get together and rent a house and divide up the place as best they can, sharing a bathroom and kitchen as common ground. In many cases this is safer than a dorm, which is pretty open territory. I also know historically people have always run boarding houses, taken in lodgers etc and it has been perfectly respectable.
Assuming a sin where there is none is also a sin.

[PhuturePriest]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' timestamp='1334553069' post='2418541']
See when I think of Church teaching and scandal, I think of this:
Matthew 7

1 Judge not, that you may not be judged,
2 For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged: and with what measure you mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why seest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye; and seest not the beam that is in thy own eye?
4 Or how sayest thou to thy brother: Let me cast the mote out of thy eye; and behold a beam is in thy own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam in thy own eye, and then shalt thou see to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Its not my business to assume two or more people's living arrangement is scandalous, unless they tell me it is. This is a college town, and I know way too many kids who get together and rent a house and divide up the place as best they can, sharing a bathroom and kitchen as common ground. In many cases this is safer than a dorm, which is pretty open territory. I also know historically people have always run boarding houses, taken in lodgers etc and it has been perfectly respectable.
Assuming a sin where there is none is also a sin.
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I do not assume there is something going on and I am not saying anybody that lives in the same apartment with someone is doomed to sin. But I am warning that this can be extremely tempting, especially for two young people whose lust levels are off the charts.

[franciscanheart]

Seriously? Page 12?

[PhuturePriest]

[quote name='franciscanheart' timestamp='1334553319' post='2418544']
Seriously? Page 12?
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Crazier things have happened, like living with a daft fifty-five year old woman that breaks into your room, which is clearly a perfect example on the horrors of cohabitation.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1334553293' post='2418542']
I do not assume there is something going on and I am not saying anybody that lives in the same apartment with someone is doomed to sin. But I am warning that this can be extremely tempting, especially for two young people whose lust levels are off the charts.
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You haven't a clue if someone's "lust" level is anywhere. Sexuality is a continuum, not an either/or. Not everyone is running around looking to rip each other's clothes off.
Back in the day when I was in college, the best way to get turned off the opposite sex was to spend time around them where they live. Droms and apartments can be particularly gross. People living around with dirty cereal bowls and empty pizza boxes, in grungy sweats is NOT conducive to romance of any sort.
That is why the girls in my school were so popular with guys at other schools, they only saw us cleaned up on the weekends

[PhuturePriest]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' timestamp='1334553737' post='2418548']
You haven't a clue if someone's "lust" level is anywhere. Sexuality is a continuum, not an either/or. Not everyone is running around looking to rip each other's clothes off.
Back in the day when I was in college, the best way to get turned off the opposite sex was to spend time around them where they live. Droms and apartments can be particularly gross. People living around with dirty cereal bowls and empty pizza boxes, in grungy sweats is NOT conducive to romance of any sort.
That is why the girls in my school were so popular with guys at other schools, they only saw us cleaned up on the weekends
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I do know that biology dictates that if you are anywhere between thirteen and thirty, you most likely have unthinkably large levels of lust. And in a society that teaches you to release your lust with whomever you want and that it is natural to do so, it's no wonder why cohabitation has led to a lot of sin.

[missionseeker]

[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1334554108' post='2418550']
I do know that biology dictates that if you are anywhere between thirteen and thirty, you most likely have unthinkably large levels of lust. And in a society that teaches you to release your lust with whomever you want and that it is natural to do so, it's no wonder why cohabitation has led to a lot of sin.
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Biology has nothing to do with lust. Lust is a choice to let sexual pleasure come before anything else.

[PhuturePriest]

[quote name='missionseeker' timestamp='1334554945' post='2418557']
Biology has nothing to do with lust. Lust is a choice to let sexual pleasure come before anything else.
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But biology explains lust and the ramifications of it, and why it is so strong during the years between thirteen and thirty. Honestly, if I cohabitated with a woman, I do not think I would do anything. But that's the thing: [i]Think. [/i]I'm not going to trust what I think and make a possibly life-altering decision unless I absolutely have to, and cohabitation is not normally something people must do, it is a choice on whether they want to do it or not.

[Vincent Vega]

Biology explains sexual attraction. Lust is not an autonomous thing, it requires a conscious choice.

[PhuturePriest]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1334555204' post='2418560']
Biology explains sexual attraction. Lust is not an autonomous thing, it requires a conscious choice.
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Of course. But simple biology says that sexual attraction is very strong in the teen years, and that is something nobody here will disagree with. I wouldn't trust myself to live in an apartment with an eighteen year old girl, no matter how much self-control we both had. I trust myself as far as I can throw me, and I'm a leg-strength kind of guy, so that ain't far.