RezaMikhaeil Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 [quote name='Delivery Boy' timestamp='1332694767' post='2408017'] You read my post wrong. Read the ones before it. I was telling Kujo if Zimmerman has facts that he didn't murder this kid he needs to get them out. Cause people like the black panthers who aren't playing want him dead. I'm not down with the panthers. [/quote] The black panthers would want him dead anyways. After THE FACTS about the Duke Lacross team came out they still insisted that they were white devils that raped that black woman and needed to be put behind bars and killed. So therefore since they are not a good organization that care about the facts and you are telling Zimmerman to cater to them, you are supporting them. [quote name='kujo' timestamp='1332695270' post='2408022'] Do you really think the Black Panthers are going to be dissuaded by "facts?" [/quote] Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 kujo. Give they guy some slack. I don't think he's thought to consider how similar his call for just deserts are similar to NBPs. And I don't think Rodney deserved a beating at the hands of police any more than Trayvon deserved to be shot by a citizen. Rodney deserved to be arrested, not beaten. How many lives were destroyed in the King riots because of public outrage replacing public outcry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Ok Jesuslol I will take your advice. I still have a very strong opinion about all this and feel there is a very lax attitude with some like this isn't a big deal. And I think that's just as dangerous. God bless buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I never called for Zimmermans death. I said he will get what's coming to him and I hope he repents before it happens. As the The Bible says live by the sword die by the sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) Guns kill. There's no coming back from death. I don't care if flordia finds Zimmerman not guilty. He still killed Trayvon. Who we know was not a bad kid. Edited March 25, 2012 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 [quote name='Delivery Boy' timestamp='1332696609' post='2408040'] I never called for Zimmermans death. I said he will get what's coming to him and I hope he repents before it happens. As the The Bible says live by the sword die by the sword. [/quote] Assuming he's been afforded his right to trial and found guilty by a jury of his peers after the prosecution proves without a shadow of a doubt that he is guilty of murder in the 1st degree, and therefore sentenced to execution after he has fully-exhausted his right to appeal.... Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) Look I don't want no one to be put to death. I really don't. All I'm saying guns are real and a 17 year old is dead who was unarmed. And it got brushed under the radar and Zimmerman in his own words said he thought it would "blow over". All I'm saying is when you bring guns into situations things get real. When you kill a unarmed kid things get even more real. As others have said prayers for everyone involved. Edited March 25, 2012 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RezaMikhaeil Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 [quote name='Delivery Boy' timestamp='1332697364' post='2408053'] Look I don't want no one to be put to death. I really don't. All I'm saying guns are real and a 17 year old is dead who was unarmed. And it got brushed under the radar and Zimmerman in his own words said he thought it would "blow over". All I'm saying is when you bring guns into situations things get real. When you kill a unarmed kid things get even more real. As others have said prayers for everyone involved. [/quote] So lets use our emotionalism argument, not based upon the facts, to take away everyone's guns and find everyone who has ever killed someone with a gun guilty of murder? That's your logic right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) No I'm all for guns. I'm just saying Zimmerman will reap what he sowed. Edited March 25, 2012 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 [quote name='RezaMikhaeil' timestamp='1332699727' post='2408064'] So lets use our emotionalism argument, not based upon the facts, to take away everyone's guns and find everyone who has ever killed someone with a gun guilty of murder? That's your logic right? [/quote] The only person mentioning gun control of any kind in this thread is you (and possibly that r2dt00 guy). /i wouldnt put it past DB to have that opinion, but he hasnt mentioned it. seriously, I'd be happy to debate on the side of removing gun control all day, but there is no need to try and shoehorn it into places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 [quote name='Delivery Boy' timestamp='1332700771' post='2408076'] No I'm all for guns. I'm just saying Zimmerman will reap what he sowed. [/quote] ...assuming "what he sowed" is proven, in a court of law--and not on CNN or Fox News--by a group of legal professionals--not race-baiters like Al Sharpton or morons on a message board-- to have been clearly, demonstrably, criminally wrong... ...also assuming his version of the events is proven to have been false, which it has yet to be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 [quote name='kujo' timestamp='1332704401' post='2408112'] ...assuming "what he sowed" is proven, in a court of law--and not on CNN or Fox News--by a group of legal professionals--not race-baiters like Al Sharpton or morons on a message board-- to have been clearly, demonstrably, criminally wrong... ...also assuming his version of the events is proven to have been false, which it has yet to be... [/quote] His story of events still presents serious problems. Contrary to what the demagogs on MSNBC may imply I don't believe that this man was an arch-racist intent on hunting black teens. But an innocent teenager is dead because of his stupidity and that can't just pass. Even based on his version of events you have a teenager walking where he had every right to walk until he was confronted by an adult who was substantially larger than him (and armed). That the adult lost the ensuing fight and chose to 'defend' himself (from a broken nose, I guess) by killing an unarmed teenager may make him innocent of first degree murder, but he still has blood on his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1332711474' post='2408232'] His story of events still presents serious problems. Contrary to what the demagogs on MSNBC may imply I don't believe that this man was an arch-racist intent on hunting black teens. But an innocent teenager is dead because of his stupidity and that can't just pass. Even based on his version of events you have a teenager walking where he had every right to walk until he was confronted by an adult who was substantially larger than him (and armed). That the adult lost the ensuing fight and chose to 'defend' himself (from a broken nose, I guess) by killing an unarmed teenager may make him innocent of first degree murder, but he still has blood on his hands. [/quote] The adult had cause to believe the kid was armed. That was why he confronted the kid in the first place. That's why he defended himself. He doesn't have to see the weapon in order to justify defending himself against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 when and how did he have cause to believe the kid was armed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 [quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1332712098' post='2408245'] when and how did he have cause to believe the kid was armed? [/quote] That's the whole point of his actions--he thought the kid was on drugs and on his way to hurt someone and/or rob a house. And I believe he said told the 911 lady that he had something in his front pockets, which turned out to be the Skittles and iced tea can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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