Jesus_lol Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) ok first off, most people who prepare for "zombies" are doing so somewhat tongue in cheek. the facts are that any preparations for "zombies" would come in handy in a real world SHTF scenario, such as a natural disaster, societal collapse, or on a smaller scale home invasions, poverty etc. All of which happen regularly around the globe. look at what happened in new orleans when the hurricane hit. massive damage to infrastructure, other people turning to looting, rape, murder, etc, police and military being completely unable to maintain safety or order, and shortages of potable water, food and shelter. many people suddenly had no supplies, and people around them became a real danger. having access to weapons(for both hunting and self defense) and stored food/clothes/etc gear could make all the difference. I know of at least one man, during Katrina, who prevented his daughter from being kidnapped and his son from being shot, by grabbing his shotgun and shooting at the men trying to stuff her in the van, and about to shoot his son for trying to help. The difference between what happened in that case, and what could have happened was about 400 bucks that man spent on a shotgun. hardly a waste of life savings. It makes no less sense than keeping a fire extinguisher in the house. If you have ever watched The Road(or read the book) you would be familiar with the concept that when the world is turned completely over, and supplies are scarce, etc your biggest danger is from your fellow man(who in the book are bandits and cannibals. close enough to zombies in my book, and very believable) especially if you live in a remote area(like many in canada and the USA) it makes sense to have a stored amount of food and gear for the frankly quite frequent times you may be cut off from the outside world, even if its just a few weeks of being snowed in. Guns and knowledge of hunting and fishing, etc are never a bad thing to have. Edited March 23, 2012 by Jesus_lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) [quote name='cmotherofpirl' timestamp='1332473379' post='2405830'] [url="http://www.sentientdevelopments.com/2007/01/just-say-no-to-mind-controlling.html"]http://www.sentientd...ontrolling.html[/url] [url="http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/09/science/la-sci-zombie-virus-20110910"]http://articles.lati...-virus-20110910[/url] and the really terrifying one: [url="http://www.dailytech.com/Baffling+Illness+Strikes+Africa+Turns+Children+Into+Violent+Zombies/article24276.htm"]http://www.dailytech...rticle24276.htm[/url] [/quote] That some viruses can alter their hosts behavior is not the point, that has been known for many years. As far as "nodding disease" some of these reports, namely the reports of setting fires, sound suspcious. That's too specfic of a violent behavior in humans to be caused by a virus in my opinion. Just sounds like thugs to me. Edited March 23, 2012 by r2Dtoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 [quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1332474847' post='2405853'] That some viruses can alter their hosts behavior is not the point, that has been known for many years. As far as "nodding disease" some of these reports, namely the reports of setting fires, sound suspcious. That's too specfic of a violent behavior in humans to be caused by a virus in my opinion. Just sounds like thugs to me. [/quote] The fires might not be deliberate, just the tragic interactions of a nodding stumbling kid in an environment thats not equipped or designed to deal with them. Imagine having to tie your child to the wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 It's common knowledge that George Romero, the "Godfather of all Zombies" was a rather accomplished geneticist. I think he should know, if anyone does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidemunch88 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 [quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1332473307' post='2405829'] But you're arguing these mutagens would cause a virus to be "zombified", we'll call it, correct?[/quote] Could. You're denying the possibility. We are talking about mutants, here. Look at whales. Who would ever argue that a fish could turn into a giant mammal? No one. [quote] Guy #1: Aliens built the Pyramids. Barrack Obama is a hommosexual, a Muslim, and was born in Kenya. Bush was behind 9/11, and it sure wasn't Oswald on that Grassy Knoll! Guy #2: Dude, speaking of grass, pass that joint! Seriously, why would I entertain every crackpot consiparcy theory out there? Does the government always tell the truth? No, of course not, but why would it care about this?[/quote] You shouldn't be glorifying drug use. I don't see how it's a crackpot theory. One extra bullet qualifies as "crackpot"? Where did you learn math? [quote] You think the people behind the modern scientfic views on viruses were shipping magnates? What? They were scientists. [/quote] You mentioned Aristotle, who was a Greek shipping magnate. Maybe he funded some science research, but he's no scientist. [quote] Copernicus lived in the 15th century. What would he know about viruses? We hadn't even really proved they existed yet. These days we take photos of them, and study them. [/quote] 15 centuries is a long time, and people got sick, back then. Columbus knew America was out there even though other people laughed at him. Same with scientists like Copernicus and viruses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1332502526' post='2405995'] Could. You're denying the possibility. We are talking about mutants, here. Look at whales. Who would ever argue that a fish could turn into a giant mammal? No one.[/quote] No one would? Scienctists believe that human ancestors emerged from the sea. Why would it be so far fetched to assume a fish could turn into a giant mammal? [quote]You shouldn't be glorifying drug use.[/quote] I don't. 90% of consiparcy theorists do. [quote]I don't see how it's a crackpot theory. One extra bullet qualifies as "crackpot"? Where did you learn math?[/quote] What does all this have to do with the CDC's zombie campaign? [quote]You mentioned Aristotle, who was a Greek shipping magnate. Maybe he funded some science research, but he's no scientist.[/quote] Aristotle wrote a lot books, and is still well regarded in the scientfic community. I beleive he was the first person to even theorize that atoms existed, even if he was completely wrong about them. [quote]15 centuries is a long time, and people got sick, back then. Columbus knew America was out there even though other people laughed at him. Same with scientists like Copernicus and viruses.[/quote] Well no, not exactly. Columbus thought he was in India when he landed on the New World, hence he called the Natives "Indians". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1332477558' post='2405888'] It's common knowledge that George Romero, the "Godfather of all Zombies" was a rather accomplished geneticist. I think he should know, if anyone does. [/quote] Ever heard of psudeo-science? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides' Jack Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Guys, this isn't a humorous issue at all: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=24276 This is not a joke. It's quite real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 [quote name='BG45' timestamp='1332459766' post='2405626'] If not, [url="http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outbreak-would-fail-quickly.html"]Cracked has a nice article on why a zombie apocalypse is impossible.[/url] [/quote] i love cracked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 [quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1332510726' post='2406026'] Ever heard of psudeo-science? [/quote] Oh get off it. Now you're going to try telling us that homeopathy isn't a legitimate treatment option. Puh-lease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 You probably believe water doesn't have memory or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 back to the original purpose of the thread, there is nothing wrong or silly with a certain level of preparedness for disaster scenarios, or joking around about it being for zombies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 [quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1332519759' post='2406139'] back to the original purpose of the thread, there is nothing wrong or silly with a certain level of preparedness for disaster scenarios, or joking around about it being for zombies. [/quote] Yeah, I plan to reach a certain level of preparedness, for instance if we have to flee the country. Or hole up in our house for however long. It's just common sense, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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