"dooms Day"

[r2Dtoo]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1332465053' post='2405682']
The basis of your argument is the behavior of observed corpses, obviously discounting organisms external to the human corpse.[/quote]
When did I say that? I specfically said,
[quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1332461246' post='2405634']science has been studing dead things since ancient Greece, and in that time not one single report has ever been filed of something dead getting [b]sick[/b].[/quote]
Explain to me how that discounts organisms external to corpses. It includes them actually.

[quote]Scientists invented video games, and many biologists from the CDC were consulted in the creation of the film, which was only released after the video games because they were worried the movie wouldn't be popular.[/quote]
The CDC? lol... If you actually look past the billboards, and look at the [i]point[/i] behind the various incarnations of the CDC's zombie campaign you see that the CDC is just trying to get people prepared for emergencies.

[quote]
[b] CDC instructs on preparations for Zombie Apocalypse[/b]

Published 19 May 2001



There are many exotic diseases the Atlanta-based U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is investigating, and about it which it warns Americans; few followers of the health agency were prepared for its latest post: “Preparedness 101: Zombie Apocalypse”; the post, written by Assistant Surgeon General Ali Khan, instructs readers how to prepare for “flesh-eating zombies” – zombies similar to those one sees in movies like “Night of the Living Dead” and video games like Resident Evil; CDC spokesperson said: [b]“It’s kind of a tongue-in-cheek campaign—- We were talking about hurricane preparedness and someone bemoaned that we kept putting out the same messages”[/b][/quote]

[url="http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/cdc-instructs-preparations-zombie-apocalypse"]http://www.homelands...mbie-apocalypse[/url]

In other words, all that shows is that we, as Americans, are now so stupid that we must be entertained at every waking moment of our lives--even when people are trying to show us how to save our own butts--or our brains shut off and we won't listen. That's it. No one at the CDC is seriously arguing that zombies are going to come and eat our brains.

[quote]Hence evolution.[/quote]
Do you know what a virus is? It's not even an organism. How is something like that supposed to evlove anytime soon into something that will make the dead want human brains?

[quote]And science grows by leaps and bounds, as evidenced by the invention of electricity.[/quote]
Correction: Scientific [i]knowledge[/i] grows by leaps and bounds, not science.

[Jesus_lol]

well, im off to fire practice, i shall impart my thread ending wisdom later

[Winchester]

[quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1332467571' post='2405703']
When did I say that? I specfically said,

Explain to me how that discounts organisms external to corpses. It includes them actually.[/quote]
Like Newton observed, the actions of a being are inseperable from the being. Your evaluation of the behavior of corpses ipso facto denies the ability of a virus to adapt in such a manner as to reanimate the dead.

[quote]
The CDC? lol... If you actually look past the billboards, and look at the [i]point[/i] behind the various incarnations of the CDC's zombie campaign you see that the CDC is just trying to get people prepared for emergencies.



[url="http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/cdc-instructs-preparations-zombie-apocalypse"]http://www.homelands...mbie-apocalypse[/url]
In other words, all that shows is that we, as Americans, are now so stupid that we must be entertained at every waking moment of our lives--even when people are trying to show us how to save our own butts--or our brains shut off and we won't listen. That's it. No one at the CDC is seriously arguing that zombies are going to come and eat our brains.
[/quote]
You probably think only one bullet killed Gerald Ford.


[quote]Do you know what a virus is? It's not even an organism. How is something like that supposed to evlove anytime soon into something that will make the dead want human brains?[/quote]
That definition of virus, though common, was rejected by many famous scientists.


[quote]Correction: Scientific [i]knowledge[/i] grows by leaps and bounds, not science.
[/quote]
Science is knowledge.

[r2Dtoo]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1332467928' post='2405708']
well, im off to fire practice, i shall impart my thread ending wisdom later
[/quote]
Studying to become an arsonist, heh?

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1332468407' post='2405719']
Studying to become an arsonist, heh?
[/quote]

Nope. Firebender. I've seen him in action.
Little known fact, but this is actually him.
[img]http://www.nicknz.co.nz/content/3778/Zukko.png[/img]

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1332461699' post='2405642']
If I were God I'd rather send an asteroid to the Earth. Human Pizza!
[/quote]

Um, yeah He is doing exactly that. Next Feb 15 to be exact.

[r2Dtoo]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1332468394' post='2405718']
Like Newton observed, the actions of a being are inseperable from the being. Your evaluation of the behavior of corpses ipso facto denies the ability of a virus to adapt in such a manner as to reanimate the dead.[/quote]
Ok, seriously? What else am I expected to believe a virus being able to "adapt in"? Perhaps a virus could adapt to cause me to believe I was born from a ceiling fan, or perhaps one could adapt to make me type the complete works of William Shakespere without ever reading him, but why would one do that?

Do you really understand the point of evolution? Can you even tell me what that is? Argue your point from [i]that[/i] perspective and I'll believe you.


[quote]You probably think only one bullet killed Gerald Ford.[/quote]
Um...according to Wikipedia (which is all I care to check regarding this nonsensical reference) "President Ford had end-stage coronary artery disease and severe aortic stenosis and insufficiency, caused by calcific alteration of one of his heart valves" at the time of his death.


[quote]That definition of virus, though common, was rejected by many famous scientists.[/quote]
Who exactly?


[quote]Science is knowledge.[/quote]
Not really. I know Micealangelo painted the Sistine Chapel ceiling, but how is that scientfic?

[r2Dtoo]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1332468737' post='2405724']
Nope. Firebender. I've seen him in action.
Little known fact, but this is actually him.
[img]http://www.nicknz.co.nz/content/3778/Zukko.png[/img]
[/quote]
Impressive.

[Nihil Obstat]

This is the greatest thing out of all the things.

[Winchester]

[quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1332469893' post='2405759']
Ok, seriously? What else am I expected to believe a virus being able to "adapt in"? Perhaps a virus could adapt to cause me to believe I was born from a ceiling fan, or perhaps one could adapt to make me type the complete works of William Shakespere without ever reading him, but why would one do that?

Do you really understand the point of evolution? Can you even tell me what that is? Argue your point from [i]that[/i] perspective and I'll believe you.[/quote]
The point of evolution is survival. All it takes is one virus to mutate, and with all the mutagens present in our modern world, this is certainly possible. There are way more midgets than there used to be--evolution.



[quote]Um...according to Wikipedia (which is all I care to check regarding this nonsensical reference) "President Ford had end-stage coronary artery disease and severe aortic stenosis and insufficiency, caused by calcific alteration of one of his heart valves" at the time of his death.[/quote]
Well, if it says it on wikipedia, it must be true.


[quote]Who exactly?[/quote]
Lots of whos, but Copernicus is probably the most famous.


[quote]
Not really. I know Micealangelo painted the Sistine Chapel ceiling, but how is that scientfic?
[/quote]
I didn't say all knowledge is science, merely that science is knowledge. If you don't have any knowledge, you can't be a scientist.

[r2Dtoo]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1332470952' post='2405774']
The point of evolution is survival. All it takes is one virus to mutate, and with all the mutagens present in our modern world, this is certainly possible. There are way more midgets than there used to be--evolution.[/quote]
So, you're trying to argue that because of man-made radiation, and whatnot a virus is capable of of mutating into a zombie causing agent? Am I understaning you correctly?




[quote]Well, if it says it on wikipedia, it must be true.[/quote]
Maybe, maybe not, but what exactly were you trying to pull with the Ford reference to begin with? Try to stay on topic, please.


[quote]Lots of whos, but Copernicus is probably the most famous.[/quote]
Aristotle thought atoms were indestructible too. It's easy to devlop a scientific theory when you have very little facts to work with like Aristotle with atoms, and Copernicus with viruses apparently, but there are way too many facts known about viruses and atoms these days to still give those theories any credit.

Edited March 23, 2012 by r2Dtoo

[Winchester]

[quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1332471611' post='2405796']
So, you're trying to argue that because of man-made radiation, and whatnot a virus is capable of of mutating into a zombie causing agent? Am I understaning you correctly?[/quote]
Well, the capability would be external. Really, the mutagen gets the credit. I'm saying the results are possible.




[quote]
Maybe, maybe not, but what exactly were you trying to pull with the Ford reference to begin with? Try to stay on topic, please.
[/quote]
Your trust of government propaganda is my point.


[quote]Aristole thought atoms were indestrutible too. It's easy to devlop a scientific theory when you have very little facts to work with like Aristotle with atoms, and Copernicus with viruses apparently, but there are way too many facts known about viruses and atoms to still give those theories any weight.
[/quote]
I don't care what some shipping magnate thinks. He is a businessman, not a scientist.

Copernicus was a Catholic. I don't think you should be insulting him.

[r2Dtoo]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1332471846' post='2405805']
Well, the capability would be external. Really, the mutagen gets the credit. I'm saying the results are possible.[/quote]
But you're arguing these mutagens would cause a virus to be "zombified", we'll call it, correct?




[quote]Your trust of government propaganda is my point.[/quote]
Guy #1: Aliens built the Pyramids. Barrack Obama is a hommosexual, a Muslim, and was born in Kenya. Bush was behind 9/11, and it sure wasn't Oswald on that Grassy Knoll!

Guy #2: Dude, speaking of grass, pass that joint!

Seriously, why would I entertain every crackpot consiparcy theory out there? Does the government always tell the truth? No, of course not, but why would it care about this?




[quote]I don't care what some shipping magnate thinks. He is a businessman, not a scientist.[/quote]
You think the people behind the modern scientfic views on viruses were shipping magnates? What? They were scientists.

[quote]Copernicus was a Catholic. I don't think you should be insulting him.[/quote]
Copernicus lived in the 15th century. What would he know about viruses? We hadn't even really proved they existed yet. These days we take photos of them, and study them.

[cmotherofpirl]

[url="http://www.sentientdevelopments.com/2007/01/just-say-no-to-mind-controlling.html"]http://www.sentientdevelopments.com/2007/01/just-say-no-to-mind-controlling.html[/url]


[url="http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/09/science/la-sci-zombie-virus-20110910"]http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/09/science/la-sci-zombie-virus-20110910[/url]

and the really terrifying one: [url="http://www.dailytech.com/Baffling+Illness+Strikes+Africa+Turns+Children+Into+Violent+Zombies/article24276.htm"]http://www.dailytech.com/Baffling+Illness+Strikes+Africa+Turns+Children+Into+Violent+Zombies/article24276.htm[/url]

[Nihil Obstat]

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