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[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1331764231' post='2400820']
Calm down. This was stupid and offensive but nobody is an Emperor.



That is surprising



Cure



This was a local issue, stop trying to nationalize it.



Yeah, it was offensive and stupid, but so is your attempt to insinuate that this is a token of some Imperial ambition.
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Don't think there isn't an underlying message. This is just another example of creeping fascism/socialism/or communism. It definitly isn't enforcing the founders vision of our nation;

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[quote name='truthlvr' timestamp='1331835876' post='2401270']
Don't think there isn't an underlying message.[/QUOTE]

Yes. The underlying message is that the local party functionary is stupid.

[QUOTE]This is just another example of creeping fascism/socialism/or communism.[/QUOTE]

No it's not. And stop conflating fascism, socialism, add communism. They're all different theories.

[QUOTE] It definitly isn't enforcing the founders vision of our nation;
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Ok

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[quote name='IcePrincessKRS' timestamp='1331816645' post='2401066'][url="http://www.usflag.org/uscode36.html"]http://www.usflag.org/uscode36.html[/url][/quote]

i actually looked him the flag code because a local baptist church was flying the flag at night without illuminating it. I sent them a note in the mail. next time i saw the flag flying at night, they had put a spotlight on it. :)

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IcePrincessKRS

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1331843017' post='2401358']
i actually looked him the flag code because a local baptist church was flying the flag at night without illuminating it. I sent them a note in the mail. next time i saw the flag flying at night, they had put a spotlight on it. :)
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My mom was always on us to make sure we took proper care of our flag growing up. We didn't know the whole code or anything like that, but the basic rules of respect we knew from childhood.

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Upon reading the posted 'Flag Rules', it makes me think the 200' long flag displayed horizontally at football games violates the the rules.

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cmotherofpirl

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1331846359' post='2401393']
As a non-American I find the whole flag code to be slightly odd.
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You have one as well: [url="https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:J116NKnHETwJ:www.ksd.mb.ca/Policies/Section%2520I/INDB.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESje_4mQLV_gWmaF6thf4MIQVmqqugevLuz9RP68o1b6pnY-iXA9XAnivDrFwEj5ud3xDRQmZ1c2ouGipXtt760VUx8szEUUJhNbw2FeBFG6gHxCG4ivzdsphWno-jdIJyqzz2e4&sig=AHIEtbTAyS1PV5i5juModlR8_CE-iF4m_g"]https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:J116NKnHETwJ:www.ksd.mb.ca/Policies/Section%2520I/INDB.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESje_4mQLV_gWmaF6thf4MIQVmqqugevLuz9RP68o1b6pnY-iXA9XAnivDrFwEj5ud3xDRQmZ1c2ouGipXtt760VUx8szEUUJhNbw2FeBFG6gHxCG4ivzdsphWno-jdIJyqzz2e4&sig=AHIEtbTAyS1PV5i5juModlR8_CE-iF4m_g[/url]

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IcePrincessKRS

[quote name='Anomaly' timestamp='1331844212' post='2401373']
Upon reading the posted 'Flag Rules', it makes me think the 200' long flag displayed horizontally at football games violates the the rules.
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It does. I only quoted part of the rules, but I think the one addressing that was on the part I included. It's also problematic because in order to fold the flag back up at that size there's no way to avoid it touching the ground--and not just touching but being on the ground for more than a few seconds.

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IcePrincessKRS

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' timestamp='1331846790' post='2401400']
You have one as well: [url="https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:J116NKnHETwJ:www.ksd.mb.ca/Policies/Section%2520I/INDB.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESje_4mQLV_gWmaF6thf4MIQVmqqugevLuz9RP68o1b6pnY-iXA9XAnivDrFwEj5ud3xDRQmZ1c2ouGipXtt760VUx8szEUUJhNbw2FeBFG6gHxCG4ivzdsphWno-jdIJyqzz2e4&sig=AHIEtbTAyS1PV5i5juModlR8_CE-iF4m_g"]https://docs.google....odlR8_CE-iF4m_g[/url]
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Here's another, lots of info there. http://www.pch.gc.ca/pgm/ceem-cced/etiqtt/101-eng.cfm

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Nihil Obstat

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' timestamp='1331846790' post='2401400']
You have one as well: [url="https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:J116NKnHETwJ:www.ksd.mb.ca/Policies/Section%2520I/INDB.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESje_4mQLV_gWmaF6thf4MIQVmqqugevLuz9RP68o1b6pnY-iXA9XAnivDrFwEj5ud3xDRQmZ1c2ouGipXtt760VUx8szEUUJhNbw2FeBFG6gHxCG4ivzdsphWno-jdIJyqzz2e4&sig=AHIEtbTAyS1PV5i5juModlR8_CE-iF4m_g"]https://docs.google....odlR8_CE-iF4m_g[/url]
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And I ignore it even harder. ^_^
But it's not really a thing here. Like, you ask 100 Canadians about the flag code, I bet you maybe one could tell you even one thing about it. Ask 100 Americans, and it seems like a pretty sizable number know a fair bit about it.

ETA: It's also not particularly common for regular people to fly the flag. Seems far more common in the US.

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cmotherofpirl

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1331847971' post='2401408']
And I ignore it even harder. ^_^
But it's not really a thing here. Like, you ask 100 Canadians about the flag code, I bet you maybe one could tell you even one thing about it. Ask 100 Americans, and it seems like a pretty sizable number know a fair bit about it.

ETA: It's also not particularly common for regular people to fly the flag. Seems far more common in the US.
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Probably because they are veterans or former Boy or Girl Scouts.

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Nihil Obstat

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' timestamp='1331848623' post='2401415']
Probably because they are veterans or former Boy or Girl Scouts.
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Pretty sure we have veterans and scouts in Canada too.

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MissScripture

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' timestamp='1331848623' post='2401415']
Probably because they are veterans or former Boy or Girl Scouts.
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I actually didn't really learn about the flag in Girl Scouts. I learned about it from my Dad and brothers being in Boy Scouts, and we learned about it at school.

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IcePrincessKRS

[quote name='MissScripture' timestamp='1331848771' post='2401418']
I actually didn't really learn about the flag in Girl Scouts. I learned about it from my Dad and brothers being in Boy Scouts, and we learned about it at school.
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Yeah, my dad was a reservist but I really learned the most about respecting our flag from my Mom. Her dad was in the Air Force when he was in his 20s so that may have been part of it... not really sure. I would venture to say that most Americans have at least a modicum of respect for our flag which is why we try to avoid the cardinal grievances against it (flying upside down, laying it on the ground, publicly burning it in protest, etc.) Because, obviously, it's not about the government, it's about We The People. And the men and women who serve to protect us. Despite our differences there is a certain pride and unity involved.

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MissScripture

[quote name='IcePrincessKRS' timestamp='1331849530' post='2401422']
Yeah, my dad was a reservist but I really learned the most about respecting our flag from my Mom. Her dad was in the Air Force when he was in his 20s so that may have been part of it... not really sure. I would venture to say that most Americans have at least a modicum of respect for our flag which is why we try to avoid the cardinal grievances against it (flying upside down, laying it on the ground, publicly burning it in protest, etc.) Because, obviously, it's not about the government, it's about We The People. And the men and women who serve to protect us. Despite our differences there is a certain pride and unity involved.
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Exactly. :)

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