Byzantine Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 [size=3][font=georgia,serif]When Jesus says "[color=#001320]there are some of them that stand here, who shall not taste death, till they see the kingdom of God coming in power," (Mk 9:1) is He referring to the destruction of Jerusalem, as proposed by Hahn, I think, or to the Resurrection, which is what I think the [i]Orthodox Study Bible[/i] promotes. Is there anything that we are bound to believe, or is it one of those things left open for discussion? Thanks![/color][/font][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Perhaps He would be referring to how some there would go to heaven (i.e. not die, in one sense of the word) and wait there for the eschaton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byzantine Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1331667629' post='2400204'] Perhaps He would be referring to how some there would go to heaven (i.e. not die, in one sense of the word) and wait there for the eschaton. [/quote] Interesting... although if we're allowed to go with "perhaps's" for this one I'd have to say the explanation that might've been in the OSB is my preferred one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 It could certainly be understood in more than one sense as well. There are lots of cases where multiple understandings of one passage are all acceptable, and in fact all intended. I also think it's a strong interpretation that refers to Jesus' Resurrection, because that certainly was "the Kingdom of God coming in power." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbTherese Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I am aware of something quite personal in what is quoted. For me personally and in my own times, wherever Love, Peace, Truth and Joy are found, there is The Kingdom in all its power. I also am of the understanding that there may be some interpretation by The Church, either fixed or still open to discussion. When a person experiences something quite personal in Scripture (and anyone can), it will never be contradictory to what The Church states. In the Douay Rheims translation, the passage occurs at the end of Matthew 16 - it is preceded by Jesus beginning to speak to His apostles that he must suffer and die. The beginning of Chapter 17 (after Jesus speaks about some not tasting death) is the Transfiguration when Peter, James and John witness the transfiguration of Jesus with Moses and Elias talking to Him - the three apostles wanted to stay there. They hear a voice from Heaven and fall down afraid and when they rise, only Jesus is with them instructing them to tell no one what they saw until He rises from the dead. I suspect that we are still awaiting any official Church declaration (if there is to be one) of what Jesus meant and that the passage is still under (probably much) discussion. I think quite personally Jesus is referring to His Resurrection, maybe even Pentecost, or inclusive of Pentecost after The Resurrection. From this old and most rickety armchair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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