4588686 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='Basilisa Marie' timestamp='1331523835' post='2399383'] There is a difference, though, between wearing a crucifix and wearing a hijab. I can't wear any overt jewelry at work. If I wanted to wear a necklace, I'd have to wear it under my shirt, crucifix or whatever. But it does set a dangerous precedent. As the article says, This could be a symptom of a greater issue at work here. [/quote] I don't see how they determine what are and are not 'core' religious beliefs. I mean if the woman said that this wasn't a core belief then that is one thing. But absent that how would they determine what is and is not a *core* component to any religion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Obama doesn't attack religion. He doesn't care about religion. He wants obedience to the State because it knows what is best. It's nothing personal, guys. "Just fear me, love me, do as I say [i]and I will be your slave[/i]." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1331524144' post='2399388'] I don't see how they determine what are and are not 'core' religious beliefs. I mean if the woman said that this wasn't a core belief then that is one thing. But absent that how would they determine what is and is not a *core* component to any religion? [/quote] Exactly the problem here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides' Jack Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1331524144' post='2399388'] I don't see how they determine what are and are not 'core' religious beliefs. I mean if the woman said that this wasn't a core belief then that is one thing. But absent that how would they determine what is and is not a *core* component to any religion? [/quote] The only solution, without the USA ceasing to be the USA, is for the government to not be involved, at all. More and more the government is trying to define and control the religions it is supposed to protect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='fides' Jack' timestamp='1331573569' post='2399643'] The only solution, without the USA ceasing to be the USA, is for the government to not be involved, at all. More and more the government is trying to define and control the religions it is supposed to protect. [/quote] This did not occur in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides' Jack Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1331581930' post='2399721'] This did not occur in the US. [/quote] A fact that I missed, but does not change the accuracy of my statement, as I was speaking in general terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='fides' Jack' timestamp='1331583518' post='2399741'] A fact that I missed, but does not change the accuracy of my statement, as I was speaking in general terms. [/quote] The government is not supposed to protect religion. It is supposed to enact no law respecting (concerning) an establishment of religion nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides' Jack Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1331583754' post='2399746'] The government is not supposed to protect religion. It is supposed to enact no law respecting (concerning) an establishment of religion nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof. [/quote] Exactly - read: "protect religion".I'm glad you agree with me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 No. Read: Leave religion the floopy alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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