BG45 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 [b] [url="http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/weird/Killing-Newborn-Babies-141014423.html"]Bioethicists Argue for "After-Birth Abortion"[/url][/b] [b] [url="http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/weird/Killing-Newborn-Babies-141014423.html"]They wrote that killing newborns is logically sound[/url][/b] [quote] Two Oxford bioethicists caused an outcry among pro-lifers when they argued that “after-birth abortion†— killing a newborn baby — is morally sound and should be made legal. Alberto Giubilini from the University of Milan and Francesca Minerva from Melbourne University wrote in the [url="http://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2012/02/22/medethics-2011-100411.full?sid=3f012def-bd12-4d73-9db4-8392c807ee94"]Journal of Medical Ethics[/url] that fetuses and newborns “do not have the same moral status as actual persons.†The pair argue say that killing a baby should be “permissible in all cases where abortion is, including cases where the newborn is not disabled,†adding that “the fact that both are potential persons is morally irrelevant.†The paper posits that the act wouldn’t be categorized as infanticide, or euthanasia — since the killing wouldn't necessarily be in the newborn's best interest. All Party Paliamentary Pro-Life Group has decried the controversial article. The charity’s co-chairman, Lord Alton, told the Catholic Herald, “That the Journal of Medical Ethics should give space to such a proposition illustrates not a slippery slope, but the quagmire into which medical ethics and our wider society have been sucked.“ Julian Savulescu, the editor of the Journal of Medical Ethics, defended the article on the [url="http://blogs.bmj.com/medical-ethics/2012/02/28/liberals-are-disgusting-in-defence-of-the-publication-of-after-birth-abortion/"]British Medical Journal blog[/url], claiming that similar arguments have been made in academic literature in the past. “Many people will and have disagreed with these arguments. However, the goal of the Journal of Medical Ethics is not to present the Truth or promote some one moral view. It is to present well-reasoned argument based on widely accepted premises,†he said. As for those who disagree, Savulescu said the journal will be “very willing†to consider opposing papers for publication.[/quote] I'm utterly unsurprised sadly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Wow. Lord have mercy on us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixpence Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 it makes sense right? whats the difference between in the infant in the womb and out of the womb? certainly the location of the infant does not give it rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byzantine Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS SATIRE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 The thing is, if you define personhood as being separate from one's humanity, then such is rather logical. Lord, have mercy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 "The pair argue say [sic] that killing a baby should be 'permissible in all cases where abortion is, including cases where the newborn is not disabled,†adding that “the fact that both are potential persons is morally irrelevant.'†Um. What the frick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Mr Obama and Margaret "murderous" Sanger would be so proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I read this earlier and I kept hoping that it was an anti-abortion piece... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Up next - required abortions, both pre- and post-partum - required in Catholic hospitals, paid for by Catholic employers. Anybody wanna make a pinkie bet on it happening in Obama's second term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 This is not the first time this has been brought up. It is why the Catholic view of the human person is singularly unique and necessary to fight against a dystopian Orwellian existience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 Nope not satire, this is a Telegraph piece, summarizing the findings of a journal article from a respected medical journal. I'm with Sixpence, I wasn't surprised, after all, if the unborn child has a heartbeat and no rights, why should the child outside of the womb? It still sickens me to no end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 http://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2012/02/22/medethics-2011-100411.full?sid=3f012def-bd12-4d73-9db4-8392c807ee94 The actual article published. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresaThoma Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Lord have mercy. I'm just stunned, I honestly don't know what to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) Well, I [i]mean[/i]... after all... if your baby is born deaf or something, or turns out to be a girl when you wanted a boy, or has great big cauliflower ears or something... you couldn't reasonably expect any right-thinking parents to keep it, could you? I mean... children do come with an eighteen-year warranty and a money-back guarantee, don't they? Don't they? Nota Bene: This is badly written satire, so no one has the right to be offended, okay? Edited March 2, 2012 by Luigi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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