BG45 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 [url="http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Gay-Dallas-Judge-Wont-Perform-Marriages-140154903.html?dr"]Gay Dallas Judge Won't Perform Straight Marriages[/url] [quote] Dallas County Judge Tonya Parker says she won't perform marriage ceremonies until homosexuals can be wed. During a Feb. 21 meeting, Parker told the Stonewall Democrats of Dallas that while she has the power to perform legal marriage ceremonies in her court, she will not. “I use it as my opportunity to give them a lesson about marriage inequality in this state because I feel like I have to tell them why I’m turning them away,†Parker said. “So I usually will offer them something along the lines of, ‘I’m sorry. I don’t perform marriage ceremonies because we are in a state that does not have marriage equality, and until it does, I am not going to partially apply the law to one group of people that doesn’t apply to another group of people.’ And it’s kind of oxymoronic for me to perform ceremonies that can’t be performed for me, so I’m not going to do it." "I do not perform [marriages] because it is not an equal application of the law. Period," Parker told the [url="http://www.dallasvoice.com/judge-parker-refuses-conduct-marriages-cant-performed-me-10102160.html"]Dallas Voice[/url]. Though she chooses not to perform the ceremonies, Parker said she passes marriage ceremonies on to other judges so they can be completed. [b]Update:[/b] Judge Parker released the following statement to the media on Thursday afternoon. [i]I faithfully and fully perform all of my duties as the Presiding Judge of the 116th Civil District Court, where it is my honor to serve the citizens of Dallas County and the parties who have matters before the Court.[/i] [i]Performing marriage ceremonies is not a duty that I have as the Presiding Judge of a civil district court. It is a right and privilege invested in me under the Family Code. I choose not to exercise it, as many other Judges do not exercise it. Because it is not part of our duties, some Judges even charge a fee to perform the ceremonies.[/i] [i]I do not, and would never, impede any person’s right to get married. In fact, when people wander into my courtroom, usually while I am presiding over other matters, I direct them to the Judges in the courthouse who do perform marriage ceremonies. If my deputy is not busy, I will even ask him to escort or help these individuals find another Judge who performs the ceremonies. I do this because I believe in the right of people to marry and pursue happiness.[/i] During the meeting, Parker also mentioned other steps she takes to promote equality for gay, lesbian, and transgendered issues, including adding the word "partner" to the list of people the jury is not supposed to communicate about the ongoing case with, and admonishing an attorney who used the terms "child molester" and "homosexual" interchangeably. Parker was elected in 2010 and is the first lesbian to be elected as a county judge in Dallas. [/quote] ...presented without comment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 She doesn't have to perform any marriage, its not in her job description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 She be trollin'. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJon16 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 But, if the judge was straight, and refusing to perform a Gay marriage, wouldn't all sorts of people be 'up in arms'? They'd call them a 'Homophobe' and what not. Bigotry: 1. Common Sense: 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcts Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 [quote name='BigJon16' timestamp='1330056835' post='2392093'] But, if the judge was straight, and refusing to perform a Gay marriage, wouldn't all sorts of people be 'up in arms'? They'd call them a 'Homophobe' and what not. Bigotry: 1. Common Sense: 0. [/quote] It's not so much that she's refusing to perform straight weddings, she's refusing to perform ANY weddings until everyone can be married. (Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with gay marriage, I'm just saying she's not necessarily being bigoted here.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Good for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nola Seminarian Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 [quote name='BG45' timestamp='1330056326' post='2392086'] [url="http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Gay-Dallas-Judge-Wont-Perform-Marriages-140154903.html?dr"]Gay Dallas Judge Won't Perform Straight Marriages[/url] ...presented without comment... [/quote] now if a Catholic judge refused to preform that mockery of the sacrament that is homosexual "marriage" in his court room, he would be a bigot and would be accused of discrimination[quote name='BigJon16' timestamp='1330056835' post='2392093'] But, if the judge was straight, and refusing to perform a Gay marriage, wouldn't all sorts of people be 'up in arms'? They'd call them a 'Homophobe' and what not. Bigotry: 1. Common Sense: 0. [/quote] oops i didnt read yours until after i posted mine lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Nola Seminarian' timestamp='1330058725' post='2392108'] now if a Catholic judge refused to preform that mockery of the sacrament that is homosexual "marriage" in his court room, he would be a bigot and would be accused of discrimination [/quote] It's never a sacrament when a judge performs it. If you don't like living in a secular state, then leave. Stop trying to shove your superstitions and prejudice down everyone else's throat. Edited February 24, 2012 by Hasan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJon16 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) [quote name='mcts' timestamp='1330057246' post='2392099'] It's not so much that she's refusing to perform straight weddings, she's refusing to perform ANY weddings until everyone can be married. (Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with gay marriage, I'm just saying she's not necessarily being bigoted here.) [/quote] :facepalm: My bad. What you say is written in the first sentence, and I seemed to have missed it. Thanks for pointing that out. But still, if a judge said they wouldn't perform any marriages until Gay marriage was banned, there could probably be all sorts of uproar about it. Of course there is probably some uproar about her stance as well, I mean, my statements would testify to that. Edited February 24, 2012 by BigJon16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 [quote name='BigJon16' timestamp='1330059225' post='2392113'] Oh. Ok. Thanks for correcting me, Hasan [/quote] No problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1330058860' post='2392110'] If you don't like living in a secular state, then leave. Stop trying to shove your superstitions and prejudice down everyone else's throat. [/quote] I LOL'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 [quote name='Brother Adam' timestamp='1330061482' post='2392127'] I LOL'd. [/quote] I also giggle as I ingest profound wisdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 [color=#333333][font=verdana][size=3][left]What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not. [/left][/size][/font][/color][size="2"][color=#333333][font=verdana][left][Pres. James Madison, [i]A Memorial and Remonstrance[/i], addressed to the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Virginia, 1785][/left][/font][/color][/size] [color=#333333][font=verdana][size=1][/size][/font][/color][size="2"][color=#333333][font=verdana][left] [/left][/font][/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' timestamp='1330056426' post='2392089'] She doesn't have to perform any marriage, its not in her job description. [/quote] Exactly. Where liberals would throw a hissy fit, I find this news story hard to care about. Really, so what? It's like the jab on the Office "I am not going to get married until everyone can", even they cookie cutter gay guy pretty much rolls his eyes. Such sanctimonious stands don't do much to advance real dialogue on the subject, of which there is little. We almost had that chance with contraception, to collectively think deeply for a moment, but it was lost in platitudes and our ADHD got the best of us, and before we knew it we were watching Glee again and popping Ritalin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1330061775' post='2392131'] [color=#333333][font=verdana][size=3][left]What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not. [/left][/size][/font][/color][size="2"][color=#333333][font=verdana][left][Pres. James Madison, [i]A Memorial and Remonstrance[/i], addressed to the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Virginia, 1785][/left][/font][/color][/size] [color=#333333][font=verdana][size=1][/size][/font][/color][size="2"][color=#333333][font=verdana][left] [/left][/font][/color][/size] [/quote] The limits of an iPad...I can't figure out how to copy an image location so paste it in a response here (where you would right click on a PC). My response would have been out of How the Catholic Church built Western Civ though. I will post it tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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