PhuturePriest Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I'm taking Sister's advice and I'm changing my strategy a bit. What do men want in a woman? Do most men prefer the bikinis and immodesty, or do men prefer modesty these days? What is the role of a man and woman in a relationship? Are men the initiators of the relationship like Jason Ever suggests, meaning the men initIate the relationship and the men propose marriage, or is he wrong when he says it's emasculating when women do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrestia Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I doubt all men want the same thing or view women the same way. Also, I'm stunned that so many adults here are getting so wrapped up in and bent out of shape over the opinions of a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus te Amat Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Adrestia' timestamp='1329679003' post='2389453'] I doubt all men want the same thing or view women the same way. Also, I'm stunned that so many adults here are getting so wrapped up in and bent out of shape over the opinions of a kid. [/quote] You expected different?. This is phatmass. People only have fun when at the expense of a "troll". Edited February 19, 2012 by Deus_te_Amat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrestia Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='Deus_te_Amat' timestamp='1329679115' post='2389456'] You expected different?. This is phatmass. People only have fun when at the expense of a "troll". [/quote] I will not lower my expectations because some people haven't risen to them. I wouldn't want my friends to treat me like that. And I couldn't be Catholic if I wasn't okay with being constantly challenged to be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus te Amat Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='Adrestia' timestamp='1329679332' post='2389459'] I will not lower my expectations because some people haven't risen to them. I wouldn't want my friends to treat me like that. And I couldn't be Catholic if I wasn't okay with being constantly challenged to be better. [/quote] And this is why I love you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Adrestia' timestamp='1329679003' post='2389453'] I doubt all men want the same thing or view women the same way. Also, I'm stunned that so many adults here are getting so wrapped up in and bent out of shape over the opinions of a kid. [/quote] Mary was thirteen when she conceived Jesus Christ. So you think God was at long debate because, after all, she's just a kid? What about John the Apostle? He was fifteen when Jesus called him to be a fisher of men. Did Jesus go "Hm... He has good qualities, but the handicap of him being fifteen makes him ineligible."? The point is, don't throw an opinion out because of my age. If I'm wrong, point it out. People listen to me all the time, and if they hear the wrong things it's because I was never corrected, and I must be corrected, otherwise you'll deal with tons of people with my wrong opinions. If I'm right but I'm not presenting it correctly, tell me. If I'm offending people I must know, because if I say these things in public I get in huge trouble. As a Friar or Priest, it looks bad on me, the Community, and the Chirch entirely. Edited February 19, 2012 by FuturePriest387 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrestia Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 FP, you have misunderstood my statement. I said that I was surprised by the reactions of the adults - not by your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 This thread has been totally hijacked already, so I don't mind throwing this in here. My dad told me today that SOMETIMES (not all the time), younger people can be more wise than older people BECAUSE they see things black-and-white. Many adults have spent too much time over-rationalizing things and so many things are gray areas. While some adults think that younger people see things in TOO much black-and-white, that we are just being kids, maybe the truth is that it IS black-and-white. Not necessarily with this situation, but in many situations, this could be the case. Don't get me wrong, I TOTALLY value and appreciate the opinions of all of the adults on Phatmass, and so many of the adults in my life. I love you guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrestia Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='FutureCarmeliteClaire' timestamp='1329682589' post='2389490'] This thread has been totally hijacked already, so I don't mind throwing this in here. My dad told me today that SOMETIMES (not all the time), younger people can be more wise than older people BECAUSE they see things black-and-white. Many adults have spent too much time over-rationalizing things and so many things are gray areas. While some adults think that younger people see things in TOO much black-and-white, that we are just being kids, maybe the truth is that it IS black-and-white. Not necessarily with this situation, but in many situations, this could be the case. Don't get me wrong, I TOTALLY value and appreciate the opinions of all of the adults on Phatmass, and so many of the adults in my life. I love you guys! [/quote] I agree with you 100% Whether or not I personally agree with an opinion (no matter the age of the person giving it), I can usually learn something from it. I do, however, think that adults should try to refrain from getting in wound up, emotional arguments with kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus te Amat Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Adrestia' timestamp='1329683216' post='2389500'] I agree with you 100% Whether or not I personally agree with an opinion (no matter the age of the person giving it), I can usually learn something from it. I do, however, think that adults should try to refrain from getting in wound up, emotional arguments with kids. [/quote] I think, though, that is why many of the adults respond sarcastically. Instead of teaching, they poke fun. Not the proper response, but doing so is not getting "emotionally wound up," either. Edited February 19, 2012 by Deus_te_Amat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrestia Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='Deus_te_Amat' timestamp='1329683326' post='2389502'] I think, though, that is why many of the adults respond sarcastically. Instead of teaching, they poke fun. Not the proper response, but doing so is not getting "emotionally wound up," either. [/quote] I view sarcasm as a form of emotional wind-up. Maybe I'm wrong to do so. Maybe the sarcasm is just a form of venting. Good point. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='Adrestia' timestamp='1329683216' post='2389500'] I agree with you 100% Whether or not I personally agree with an opinion (no matter the age of the person giving it), I can usually learn something from it. I do, however, think that adults should try to refrain from getting in wound up, emotional arguments with kids. [/quote] Thanks, and you are absolutely right as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='Adrestia' timestamp='1329683477' post='2389504'] I view sarcasm as a form of emotional wind-up. Maybe I'm wrong to do so. Maybe the sarcasm is just a form of venting. Good point. Thank you. [/quote] I've always viewed it as more of a venting response, personally. Particularly when you've witnessed people try and respond with a teaching response and have it gone completely unheeded. Not that this has been exactly that sort of scenario, but having experienced it in the past I can't especially blame people for not wanting to go through it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrestia Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='IcePrincessKRS' timestamp='1329684202' post='2389514'] I've always viewed it as more of a venting response, personally. Particularly when you've witnessed people try and respond with a teaching response and have it gone completely unheeded. Not that this has been exactly that sort of scenario, but having experienced it in the past I can't especially blame people for not wanting to go through it again. [/quote] What do you mean by "not wanting to go through it again" in this context? When I read that, I think that means that the adults would avoid engaging in the sarcastic back and forth. But that's not what I have observed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissScripture Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='Adrestia' timestamp='1329685948' post='2389539'] What do you mean by "not wanting to go through it again" in this context? When I read that, I think that means that the adults would avoid engaging in the sarcastic back and forth. But that's not what I have observed. [/quote] I think she means skipping the part where they calmly and rationally explain the same thing over and over only to get ignored and instead they jump straight to the sarcastic part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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