Birth Control For "health"

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[quote name='missionseeker' timestamp='1329506961' post='2388587']
My inhaler is pretty basic and common, but I can't afford it.

Generally people should be able to breathe. Sometimes I can't. so, I adjust the way I live and avoid certain things that cause triggers.[/QUOTE]

That strikes me as unfair. Maybe the solution should be to fight to get insurance companies to stop screwing over their customers rather than helping them screw over other customers as well.

[QUOTE]It's a choice, not something that we are entitled to, whether we adhere to strict rules or whether we are hedonistic. My choice is no, if someone else chooses yes, they can pay for it themselves.
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Having a basic sex life isn't hedonism.

[missionseeker]

[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1329508437' post='2388604']
That strikes me as unfair. Maybe the solution should be to fight to get insurance companies to stop screwing over their customers rather than helping them screw over other customers as well.



Having a basic sex life isn't hedonism.
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well, honestly $30 for inhaler isn't bad. I don't feel screwed over. I just feel poor.

I wasn't saying that anyone who has a sex life is a hedonist. I'm saying that all the way from one end of the spectrum to the other, it's a choice.

[Luigi]

Very influential lobbies cause certain procedures-services-devices to be covered by insurance. If you don't have a powerful lobby, chances are it's not going to be covered by insurance. If you do have a powerful lobby, chances are good that insurance providers are going to have to include the coverage.

Hearing aids are much less expensive than cochlear implants (devices, surgery, adjustments, and speech therapy can run around $100,000). Cochlear implants are covered by many insurance policies, hearing aids generally are not.

The birth control industry (pharmaceutical companies, Planned Parenthood, OB/Gyns, etc.) are a powerful lobby. Therefore, they want birth control covered by insurance.


I want tattoos covered by insurance. I want you to pay for it. Tattoos are a normal and natural part of my life, even if they don't fit neatly with your opinion of morality.

I want those facial-body implant things like Lady Gaga has covered by insurance. I want you to pay for it. Implants are a normal and natural part of my life, even if they don't fit neatly with your opinion of morality.

I want breast augmentation and butt-tucks covered by insurance. I want you to pay for it. Breast augmentation and butt-tucks are a normal and natural part of my life, even if they don't fit neatly with your opinion of morality.


Lastly, insurance companies will provide coverage for anything and everything, IF the customer wants to pay for it. If you really want birth control covered by insurance, accept the insurance policy I'm offering you as employer to employee and then pay out of [i]your own pocket [/i]for a birth control rider on your policy.

In other words, let the market resolve the issue, not the government.

[Archaeology cat]

There are also other hormonal treatments. I was put on the pill at 17 for dysmenorrhea and menorraghia. When I later stopped and charted, I found the underlying cause for the irregular cycles. I also found a non-hormonal treatment for the pain, since my problem wasn't hormonal. My sister suffered from endometriosis, which is hormonal. She, too, was put on the pill, but it didn't help. Now, after multiple surgeries culminating in a complete hysterectomy, she's found a doctor that uses bio identical hormones and tests her hormone levels to make sure the dosing is exactly what she needs. I know doing that requires more time and effort, but I wish more doctors did that for when hormonal treatment is needed.

[StMichael]

Whatever. Then why do we ALL have to pay for someone else's good time?

[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1329506093' post='2388576']
It's not just Birth Control. But Birth Control is a very basic health service for the vast majority of Americans who don't share the same very strict sexual ethics that you all entertain.
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[elizabeth09]

The Birth Control, for any reason, is still bad. I have cousins, that are either on or off the birth control, it seems to me that they had some issue with it. They were difference people to me. I thank God for my mom, because she never took it or any of her daughters were never on it.

[Socrates]

[quote name='StMichael' timestamp='1329514280' post='2388660']
Whatever. Then why do we ALL have to pay for someone else's good time?
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Communism. It's a Party.

[Strictlyinkblot]

[quote name='missionseeker' timestamp='1329506961' post='2388587']
My inhaler is pretty basic and common, but I can't afford it.

Generally people should be able to breathe. Sometimes I can't. so, I adjust the way I live and avoid certain things that cause triggers.

It's a choice, not something that we are entitled to, whether we adhere to strict rules or whether we are hedonistic. My choice is no, if someone else chooses yes, they can pay for it themselves.
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As a fellow inhaler user I hear you. Where I am at the moment i only have to pay a prescription charge for my medication but in Ireland my inhaler costs almost 50euro (about $70) and I need one every six weeks or so. If I don't use my inhaler regularly I end up in the emergency room.

If they want to make things easier for those with longstanding health problems then why not look at providing a range of medications for free or at low cost? But they won't do that because it'll cost too much money and that's not the reason they want to provide birth-control pills.

[brandelynmarie]

I found this to be an interesting way of looking at birth control:

This is from Father Peter West of Human Life International.


A woman visited her doctor. “Doctor,” she said, “I have a perfectly functioning circulatory system.
“That’s good,” the doctor replied.
“Well,” she said, “I was wondering if you could give me a drug to make it stop functioning the way that it is supposed to.”
“That’s crazy!” the doctor replied. “Why would I give you something to make your circulatory system stop functioning well?”

“Ok,” the woman replied, “but how about my respiratory system. It seems to be working fine. Could you give me something to mess it up?”

The doctor was shocked. “Of course not! No doctor in their right mind would intentionally give you a drug to mess up a healthy respiratory system.”

“Well, how about my reproductive system?” asked the woman. “Can you give me something to make it stop functioning the way that it is supposed to?”

“Certainly,” the doctor replied. “We have all kinds of medicines to do that.”

Edited February 18, 2012 by brandelynmarie