Hubertus Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Sorry, this is another mandate-related topic. My friend recently put to me this question, "What about the instances in which birth control is used not for contraception, but for health/medical reasons by an individual?" This was her reason for "not seeing a problem" in the mandate. It's my understanding that the Church allows the use of birth control-type medicine for non-contraceptive purposes. So how do I tell her that it's still wrong to force the Church to provide it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubertus Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 For the record, the most I was able to give her was that birth control has been shown to increase the risk of lots of health problems, including cancer, so I'm not sure how it could be considered healthy to take it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Somebody posted a link to an interview with Archishop (soon to be Cardinal) where he said this may be allowed in some cases. But this hardly justified a blanket requirement to give it out at will. Most contraceptives are not going for this use I think it safe to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Why just birth control? There other medicines that are way more expensive that are not required to be "free" I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 [quote name='missionseeker' timestamp='1329505476' post='2388570'] Why just birth control? There other medicines that are way more expensive that are not required to be "free" I don't get it. [/quote] Excellent point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Yeah, right. The pill is the cure for acne. Your question I believe falls under the double effect. The pill is prescribed and purpose is to help acne. However, the girl is still bound to live as though to not use the pill as a birth control mechanism. It would good, but not required, for the couple to still use NFP to postpone pregnancy. Doctors are much to quick to prescribe the pill to girls, especially acne. The girl/woman/parents should always ask the doctor what is the alternative(s). Diet and/or supplements can make a big difference in someone's acne. e.g. Derma Cleanse by ZENMED. We need more Pro-life doctors, especially Ob/Gyns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 [quote name='missionseeker' timestamp='1329505476' post='2388570'] Why just birth control? There other medicines that are way more expensive that are not required to be "free" I don't get it. [/quote] It's not just Birth Control. But Birth Control is a very basic health service for the vast majority of Americans who don't share the same very strict sexual ethics that you all entertain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictlyinkblot Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I used the pill on two occasions because of dysmenorrhea and menorrhagia which is a problem for many women. I then and still live a completely celibate life. It does have other medical uses. As for acne, with very bad acne often the only other alternative may be very powerful medication that has bad side effects, including inducing psychosis. Diet may help but I know of quite a few people with acne for whom diet has made no difference. I'm not saying this should be used as an argument for providing contraception for free. If that was the case then why has contraception been singled out when there are so many commonly used drugs, like asthma medication that more people would benefit from if they were made available at no charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joan Marie Wandel Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I took birth control for a short time, for health reasons. My mentral peroids were very bad. So bad that I often felt like i was gonna pass out. Sp I thought it might help me, well it made me feel worst. But i see nothing wrong with it if its for health reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1329506093' post='2388576'] It's not just Birth Control. But Birth Control is a very basic health service for the vast majority of Americans who don't share the same very strict sexual ethics that you all entertain. [/quote] My inhaler is pretty basic and common, but I can't afford it. Generally people should be able to breathe. Sometimes I can't. so, I adjust the way I live and avoid certain things that cause triggers. It's a choice, not something that we are entitled to, whether we adhere to strict rules or whether we are hedonistic. My choice is no, if someone else chooses yes, they can pay for it themselves. Edited February 17, 2012 by missionseeker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Also, why is the burden of birth control on women? This I also don't understand. Why not pay for condoms? Or reduce the need for pills and pay for vasectomies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Any such compromise of supporting these drugs for medical purposes would be rejected immediately because of "privacy concerns." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 [quote name='missionseeker' timestamp='1329507233' post='2388589'] Also, why is the burden of birth control on women? This I also don't understand. Why not pay for condoms? Or reduce the need for pills and pay for vasectomies? [/quote] If you want condoms, just go down to your nearest public high school and you can get all you can carry for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joan Marie Wandel Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 [quote name='missionseeker' timestamp='1329507233' post='2388589'] Also, why is the burden of birth control on women? This I also don't understand. Why not pay for condoms? Or reduce the need for pills and pay for vasectomies? [/quote] Condows aren't always the problem if its health related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1329507610' post='2388595'] If you want condoms, just go down to your nearest public high school and you can get all you can carry for free. [/quote] you know what's funny and ironic? There is a class action lawsuit commercial for certain birth control pills on TV right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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