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This thread makes me want to make my girlfriend some dinner and clean the house while she's off at school getting her PhD.

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[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1328974976' post='2385397']
Men are playing the role of a housewife,
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Butlers must really wind you up.

I'm pretty sure transexualism has a little more to do with mental illness than a reasoned belief in gender roles.

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[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1328844418' post='2384654']
Being prepared to use force if necessary to protect yourself and others is just one of a multitude of the things that make someone a man, as opposed to a sheep. I'm also a 'martial artist', and as soon as I've moved to the US I'll be practicing with handguns, but I'm not myopic enough to think that this is what makes me a man.
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Phatmass range day on the feast of St. Gabriel Possenti!

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[quote name='SaintOlaf' timestamp='1328983879' post='2385485']
This thread makes me want to make my girlfriend some dinner and clean the house while she's off at school getting her PhD.

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And I'm sure she loves you so much for all of the wonderful things you do for her! :blowkiss:

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[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1328842458' post='2384626']
Everyone had been trained to cooperate [/quote]

Seriously, I do understand what the OP is trying to say. Hasan is correct in his analysis, but it is not limited to hijackings. In general, many qualities associated with masculinity have been squashed, such as asserting one's self. Confrontation is seen as un-Christlike. Yet sometimes it is necessary to confront and be assertive, and this is necessary of BOTH genders, such as in a simple matter of saying "no" to your child. Just now, we are seeing a good example of our Catholic bishops asserting themselves over the blatantly unconstitutional HHS mandate over contraception (I wish this had only happened years earlier when California did similar and got away with it), and as of this morning there are reports of Obama backing down (although there is still some skepticism).

We in the US are blessed: we have rights that have been enshrined in our constitution that many other nations do not have, and we should not be afraid to use them to our advantage.

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I think real men don't need to talk about how they are real men. The people who matter already know.

By the way, Rudyard Kipling has a great poem on being a man:

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If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;[/font][font=Georgia,]
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;[/font][font=Georgia,]
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";[/font][font=Georgia,]
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son![/font]

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[quote name='Era Might' timestamp='1328989700' post='2385514']
I think real men don't need to talk about how they are real men. The people who matter already know.
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But sometimes "real men" need to encourage others to let them know it is OK to be a "real man" and support them in that effort. Iron sharpens iron and all that....

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[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1328844712' post='2384662']
I am not saying this is what makes a man. I'm saying this is an important aspect of manhood that has been lost. [/quote]

There is a certain amount of truth in that. Some seminaries currently or in the past have taught boxing and wrestling. Here are a few articles that you may find interesting:

[url="http://masjournalism.blogspot.com/2011/05/mas-boxing.html"]http://masjournalism.blogspot.com/2011/05/mas-boxing.html[/url]

[url="http://www.sanityandsocialjustice.net/writings/HowwrestlingwentawayfromQuigley1999.htm"]http://www.sanityandsocialjustice.net/writings/HowwrestlingwentawayfromQuigley1999.htm[/url] (this one originally appeared in my HS alumni newsletter)

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[quote name='Norseman82' timestamp='1328987014' post='2385505']
Maybe the OP just wants to be a lumberjack?
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And he's okay.

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