missionseeker Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I'd rather be a sheep than a goat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1329330026' post='2387546'] whaddya got against reunions? it's a great opportunity to get drunk and make fun of your relatives or old classmates. [/quote] It's just everyone thinks I am a son of their classmate. It gets frustrating at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 [quote name='MIkolbe' timestamp='1329324721' post='2387499'] for a manly man, you sure cry victim alot. [/quote] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqFuhCfb3Fk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqFuhCfb3Fk[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1329330211' post='2387550'] Can't afford to have a mine-shaft gap!!!! [/quote] How much do you think Dust would be angry if we called him what that dude called the President? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 [quote name='MIkolbe' timestamp='1329324721' post='2387499'] for a manly man, you sure cry victim alot. [/quote] This is the only time I have ever complained that I can remember. I think we can all agree I have gotten 99% mockery and anger, and very little understanding of what I am trying to say. You don't seem to offer much to a debate other than mockery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) To say that unions and/or union members are blue-collar, money-grubbing, hard-drinking, work-avoiding, politician-buying slackers is the same thing as saying that: All priests are pedophiles; All nuns are unhappy prudes who couldn't get a man; All Republicans are fat-cat, ceegar-smoking, factory-owning millionaires who exploit the poor; All Democrats are flaming red-eyed liberals who kill babies and love Commies; And so forth. Yes, there are some of each. And that's what the stereotype is based on. But most members of any of these groups are complex individuals, not living stereotypes. I agree that it's much easier to understand the world if we simplify everyone - especially those with whom we disagree - into stereotypes. But it's not productive. Nuance, my friends.... nuance. Edited February 16, 2012 by Luigi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F9l-Wp4itQ[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1329357754' post='2387792'] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F9l-Wp4itQ[/media] [/quote][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XruZm0oB0Fw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XruZm0oB0Fw[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 If Ruby were re-named Lucille, this would be the follow-up to "Ruby, Don't Take Your Love to Town." [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLKDFKRTdlo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLKDFKRTdlo[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Luigi' timestamp='1329357351' post='2387787'] To say that unions and/or union members are blue-collar, money-grubbing, hard-drinking, work-avoiding, politician-buying slackers is the same thing as saying that: All priests are pedophiles; All nuns are unhappy prudes who couldn't get a man; All Republicans are fat-cat, ceegar-smoking, factory-owning millionaires who exploit the poor; All Democrats are flaming red-eyed liberals who kill babies and love Commies; And so forth. Yes, there are some of each. And that's what the stereotype is based on. But most members of any of these groups are complex individuals, not living stereotypes. I agree that it's much easier to understand the world if we simplify everyone - especially those with whom we disagree - into stereotypes. But it's not productive. Nuance, my friends.... nuance. [/quote] I am not going off stereotypes. Saying most Unions are breaking the country is not a stereotype, it's a fact. I am not saying Union workers are bad people. Rather, I'm saying most Unions are demanding an extravagant amount of money and pensions. Why should I have to pay for their retirement that they'll begin at the outrageous age of forty five to fifty, and sometimes even forty, when my dad works hard every day and won't be able to retire until he's sixty if he's lucky? Are they paying for my dad's retirement? Better yet, will they be paying my dad fifty thousand dollars minimum a year, not including that nice big pension? No. Why do they even need pensions? Haven't they ever heard of not spending every dime they have and throwing some in the bank so they can make their own retirement and not take more tax money? The fact is, people are starving and Unions are on strike because it's been decided they can't retire at age forty, and are filing grievances because a youth group painted a house for free. Not to mention they're actually winning these grievances. There are good Unions, but America no longer needs them, and they need to take a hike. This is not the economy to be going on strikes in, it's an economy that requires you to be grateful that you have a job. Edited February 16, 2012 by FuturePriest387 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 Oh, and I do believe we've talked about the videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1329374492' post='2387880'] I am not going off stereotypes. Saying most Unions are breaking the country is not a stereotype, it's a fact. I am not saying Union workers are bad people. Rather, I'm saying most Unions are demanding an extravagant amount of money and pensions. Why should I have to pay for their retirement that they'll begin at the outrageous age of forty five to fifty, and sometimes even forty, when my dad works hard every day and won't be able to retire until he's sixty if he's lucky? Are they paying for my dad's retirement? Better yet, will they be paying my dad fifty thousand dollars minimum a year, not including that nice big pension? No. Why do they even need pensions? Haven't they ever heard of not spending every dime they have and throwing some in the bank so they can make their own retirement and not take more tax money? The fact is, people are starving and Unions are on strike because it's been decided they can't retire at age forty, and are filing grievances because a youth group painted a house for free. Not to mention they're actually winning these grievances. There are good Unions, but America no longer needs them, and they need to take a hike. This is not the economy to be going on strikes in, it's an economy that requires you to be grateful that you have a job. [/quote] Sounds great. Except you didn't express a beef with unions. You said: [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1329158765' post='2386409']The only work he knows is the work of avoiding work, and that won't get him anywhere in life except a Union Job. [/quote] Which indicates that you believe union workers to be the laziest people in the workforce and that those who belong to unions have reached the end of their employment rope with no lower to go. A lot of the issue that people take with your posts is not what you say, but how you say it and how it comes off. Temperance is not a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 and we wont even get into the irony of a 15 year old making judgement calls on people's work habits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1329374581' post='2387881'] Oh, and I do believe we've talked about the videos. [/quote] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaPA8fGeRUc[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I see this thread is going no where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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