Righteous Anger

[Deus te Amat]

In all sincerity, I would like to have a reasonable discussion with you.

It must be obvious by now that we know you are the same so-called "troll" that continuously gets banned and finds his way back to PM. CatholicinSD, IrishGermanNorweigian... However you decide to distinguish yourself, one thing remains the same. You come, attempt to make some serious posts, and, when dissatisfied by the fact that people don't adhere to your opinions, quickly adopt angry and trolling behavior -- like not responding with a rational conversation, but rather responding with insults. And when you get banned, you Keep. Coming. Back.

I have talked to you almost every time you've been here, and each time I've noticed the same thing. You WANT to be on PM. You WANT to be part of this Catholic Community.

What happened? Why are you so hurt and angry? What keeps you from charity?

Contrary to what might think, there are many of us here that are praying for you. We want to help you and to answer your questions and we wish that you were not so angry. Please, help us to understand.

Thank you. I am praying for you, BH.

May God bless you,
DtA

Edited February 8, 2012 by Deus_te_Amat

[catholicinsd]

When I was about 15 or 16, people on here made a very disparaging remark about myself and my parents, related to the fact that my parents were never married. While I was deeply hurt at that time, I now realize I need not be, given the moral character of the people on here. What really angered me most though were the various 'Catholic' responses to Mr. Bethke's "I hate Religion" video, especially Father's which was featured on here. In previous video Jeff discusses his absent father, and how the 'Church' people treated Jeff and his mother so poorly as a result of the divorce. Rather than showing compassion for Jeff, Father accused him of 'fueling atheistic opinion' his own response. Having been treated in much the same way by folks on here, I just had to say something.

[Vincent Vega]

Well, you've said a lot of somethings, so mission accomplished. Anything else?

[MIKolbe]

let's wrap it up.....

[Selah]

Righteous Anger, listen. I understand you are upset. I get upset with this place sometimes too. That's why I often take breaks or just hang out in the lame board. It can get so heated here that both truth and charity are discarded. We forget ourselves, that we're all human.

I'm sorry about what was said about your mother. I don't think that video in any way was made to mock the fellow; rather, it was made to be as a rebuttal to his beliefs about religion; that religion did not cause those people to be cruel and uncharitable to him. (seeing death and blaming the hearse, for instance). I, nor anyone here, would ever (unless they were undignified brats) make light of the death of a family member,ever.

That said...was it necessary to troll like this?

Edited February 8, 2012 by Selah

[Deus te Amat]

[quote name='Righteous Anger' timestamp='1328668688' post='2383393']
When I was about 15 or 16, people on here made a very disparaging remark about myself and my parents, related to the fact that my parents were never married. While I was deeply hurt at that time, I now realize I need not be, given the moral character of the people on here. What really angered me most though were the various 'Catholic' responses to Mr. Bethke's "I hate Religion" video, especially Father's which was featured on here. In previous video Jeff discusses his absent father, and how the 'Church' people treated Jeff and his mother so poorly as a result of the divorce. Rather than showing compassion for Jeff, Father accused him of 'fueling atheistic opinion' his own response. Having been treated in much the same way by folks on here, I just had to say something.
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A couple things:

SOME people on here are asshats, but they are well meaning asshats. Does that mean you should respond in kind?

I am certain that Father did not mean to insult Jeff. In fact, I'm pretty sure the line before "fueling atheistic opinion" is a compliment. Like you just said, it is one thing to say you are catholic, and another to act like a catholic. Jeff was saying he wanted to act like a Christian, but the words he was using conflict with his desires. What he was saying supports atheism, and father was pointing out the inherent paradox, because I am sure that giving atheists ammunition was not Jeff's intent.

Furthermore...

In all Christian charity,... I love you. And I am sincerely sorry that people on here caused so deep of wounds. Jesus was hurt in their words, too. Every one of our sins gives Him great pain, and it is GLORIOUS that He allows Himself to feel pain four our sake. What Humility, what Mercy....

Please,... Look in the eyes of the Crucified Christ. See your pain reflected there, and understand that we are to unite our pain with His. Forgive, B, else you will continue to be tormented by the turmoil, guilt, and fear I sense in you.

I pray that God will accept my prayers of intercession for you... I do not wish you to suffer anymore.

Edited February 8, 2012 by Deus_te_Amat

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='Righteous Anger' timestamp='1328668688' post='2383393']very disparaging
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But it's okay for you to be disparaging, right?

[Deus te Amat]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1328669359' post='2383419']

But it's okay for you to be disparaging, right?
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Get out of my thread.

[Vincent Vega]

Seriously though, I don't know you. I don't know your story. I don't know about your issues.
I do know this: if you're so upset over a comment made [i]years [/i]ago on an internet forum that you are still obsessing over it, you need to seek help. It is not healthy, and you need to move on. If it requires help to do so, get it. Your college almost certainly has a counselling center that students can use for little or no charge. Use it, for your own sake.

[catholicinsd]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1328669359' post='2383419']
But it's okay for you to be disparaging, right?
[/quote]

And then the regulating team reward people like this winner with the Vatican Flag icon thing.

[Selah]

I've had poo said to me on and off Phatmass before; it gets better, I promise. Especially when you realize those people need your prayers more than anything. Offer them up

[Lil Red]

[quote name='Righteous Anger' timestamp='1328669519' post='2383424']


And then the regulating team reward people like this winner with the Vatican Flag icon thing.
[/quote]
Cry me a river.
And grow up and move on with your life.

[Lisa]

I think you may be taking out your anger on people who had nothing to do with with whatever was said to you a few years ago. For instance, you've insulted DtA several times this evening because she takes her studies seriously and plans to graduate in 4 years. After reading a few pages in the article about the "why I love religion and love Jesus" video, you called a priest a heathen who was rejected by his father. You got upset when someone said something about your parents a few years ago; why would you say that to someone else?

It's a principle learned early on that "Two wrongs don't make a right." Please let go of the past and be the bigger person, because sadly, it's likely that whoever said it, doesn't even remember what they said. It doesn't make their comments right, but going on and living your life without a vendetta toward other people will allow you to be a happier person.

I'm praying for you!

[HopefulBride]

[quote name='Righteous Anger' timestamp='1328669519' post='2383424']
And then the regulating team reward people like this winner with the Vatican Flag icon thing.
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RA,

I don't want to beat a dead horse but I think what would really help you truly become a part of PM (as you seem to honestly want to be) is to let go of these incidents and realize that the people you are now addressing are not the ones whom you felt insulted by.

Pax!

[Selah]

Learn to let things go. Forgive, it sets you free. Seriously. It does. I know from experience, not necessarily from here, but in general.