Laudate_Dominum Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I was curious so I watched this. [url="http://thewhosoevers.com/murderyourflesh"]http://thewhosoevers.com/murderyourflesh[/url] Just thought I'd share and see what others say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Oh, Sonny. You have a heart of gold. <3 Sorry. I'm biased. I'll watch the video and let you know what I think afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' timestamp='1328329661' post='2380723'] I was curious so I watched this. [url="http://thewhosoevers.com/murderyourflesh"]http://thewhosoevers...murderyourflesh[/url] Just thought I'd share and see what others say. [/quote] What is with you and your super long videos! I mean help the rest of us with ADD for once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 the demon choking you out was probably a result of your "15 hits of crack' just a thought. and LOL i skipped through and landed on a part where Ryan, probably in the middle of something, says, "I wanna sleep with girls!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 ok I'm about halfway through this. The main problem is that movements like these seem based on emotional appeal. Now I'm not against emotion, it's a valid way to experience the world, but it's not enough in and of itself. Without a solid philosophy and theology behind it the movement will not be sustainable because it will have to perpetually ignore reason. There's also the idea that spontaneity is more authentic, likening the disciples to pop-culture icons. Of course there are good things in there, but like most things, it's mixed with bad things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I'm not watching that the essence of cow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 They sure do make a point to always preach how other Christians what it wrong and they have it so right. And if I could get a message to the speaker, DUH! Theology of the Body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 [indent=1]I'm not a Whosoever. I'm a Warrior. (Reference to the FB group.) [/indent] [indent=1]Seriously though, can't stand emotion based appeals more than anything else. It's not authentic Christianity to me, just the sort of manipulation that eventually churns out more Atheists who feel they were emotionally abused by Christians.[/indent] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 [quote name='BG45' timestamp='1328534691' post='2382248'] [indent=1]I'm not a Whosoever. I'm a Warrior. (Reference to the FB group.) [/indent] [indent=1]Seriously though, can't stand emotion based appeals more than anything else. It's not authentic Christianity to me, just the sort of manipulation that eventually churns out more Atheists who feel they were emotionally abused by Christians.[/indent] [/quote] EXACTLY. Furthermore, the inability of these movements to understand nuance. Murder is an evil act, unlike killing which can be acceptable in some situations, like killing a cow or killing someone who is trying to kill you. But then again the word "murder" is totally more bad-arse and hard-core than the word "kill." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 [quote name='Ice_nine' timestamp='1328558743' post='2382487'] EXACTLY. Furthermore, the inability of these movements to understand nuance. Murder is an evil act, unlike killing which can be acceptable in some situations, like killing a cow or killing someone who is trying to kill you. [b]But then again the word "murder" is totally more bad-arse and hard-core than the word "kill."[/b] [/quote] Yes! What I have found interesting over the years is that have to try to spruce up the wording to appeal to emotion. I have been to my fair share of Christian hard rock concerts, e.g. Cornerstone Festival. And they are very careful to not sound "churchy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 It reminds me of mortification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 The use of the words murder and kill interchangeably is a big pet peeve of mine. A few secular comedy writers that I read do that, I suppose for the added impact, but it's so, so wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1328559837' post='2382517'] The use of the words murder and kill interchangeably is a big pet peeve of mine. A few secular comedy writers that I read do that, I suppose for the added impact, but it's so, so wrong. [/quote] How come? (just curious to hear your point of view) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 [quote name='Selah' timestamp='1328560220' post='2382527'] How come? (just curious to hear your point of view) [/quote] Because murder is always wrong, but killing is not. Let's just make up a fictitious example... a journalist gets lost in some desert in the Middle East and gets attacked by a group of guys intent on either taking him hostage or killing him if he resists. He's right to resist, with deadly force if need be. Let's say he's got a gun with him too, and he's some kind of action movie hero. It would be wrong to say "the journalist murdered five armed kidnappers." Not only wrong, IMO if we're talking about a real person that would be slanderous. It would be correct to say "the journalist killed five armed kidnappers." When people make that mistake, I don't think they usually intend it maliciously, but it's such a pet peeve of mine because it contributes to people not understanding the difference, or even knowing that a difference exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJon16 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' timestamp='1328329661' post='2380723'] I was curious so I watched this. [url="http://thewhosoevers.com/murderyourflesh"]http://thewhosoevers...murderyourflesh[/url] Just thought I'd share and see what others say. [/quote] To me, this video demonstrates why I think Catholicism is the only thing that can be taken seriously. Edited February 6, 2012 by BigJon16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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