Guest Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) So I have been hearing that Padre Pio could be 2 places at once and that he often levitated. Also that other saints have been known to to do this. Does anyone know about this ? Kinda crazy. I sometimes have dreams where I fly and before I have been aware that I'm dreaming and intentionally choose to fly. It is beyond amesome and feels really real. Like almost so real that I know one day in heaven if I make it I will be able to fly. But ya anyone know about this bilocation stuff that saints have been known to do and also them flying and levitating ? Alright peace. Edited February 1, 2012 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubertus Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I always think of St. Joseph of Cupertino when I think of levitation. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/SaintJosephCupertino.jpg[/img] People were always havin' to pull 'im down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Really ? 100 percent for sure ? There's so many signs of God being real with the super natural and stuff like this. I don't see how people cannot believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Just read about St. Joseph. Its amazing stuff. It sounds 100 % real. Why would people lie about this. It seems like there is no doubt this actually happened. As I said before stuff like this proves God is real. How could you not believe in God after this ? People are levitaing pretty much sums up there is a super natural God. Now mabey you don't believe its the Christian God but there is a higher power that's for sure. Btw which is the Christian God. Crazy crazy stuff. Wow. My great aunt told me her aunt or great aunt I forget which, but anyhow she could levitate tables but her dad made her stop cause he thought it was occult. Which mabey it was. I don't know. But anyhow this stuff is very interesting. I also was never aware so many saints have been known to levitate. Very interesting. Edited February 2, 2012 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 The only thing is you would think someone would take pics of St. Joseph if it happened all the time. I wonder why they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubertus Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Well this St. Joseph did live in the 1600s, before they had cameras. Also it happens on God's time, so if it were to happen to a saint today who knows if you could get a picture or not. Or if anyone would believe it, since we have Photoshop. But it would be pretty razzle dazzle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Yeah, it isn't hard to be skeptical about such things, especially if one is a non-believer. Standards of evidence and what not. I sometimes think there should be a thorough scientific auditing of Catholicism. I'm not satisfied by many of the studies of Catholic artifacts and alleged supernatural phenomena (e.g., Lanciano) and I have to wonder if many supposed relics are bogus and this could be demonstrated. Anyway, rigorous, transparent, "open source," expert-vetted research of this kind might purify the Church of superstition and falsehood as well as provide a body of compelling evidence for the validity of the supernatural and for the claims of Catholicism. Just a thought. "Science can purify religion from error and superstition; religion can purify science from idolatry and false absolutes. Each can draw the other into a wider world, a world in which both can flourish." - Pope John Paul II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) P.S. The fantasy research project that I have in mind would be very expensive. Lots of grants, donations, the support of an eccentric billionaire or two wouldn't hurt, and a lot of volunteer efforts. I would like to see a core team of hard-nosed skeptics, kind of analogous to the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature project. Everything would have to be top notch science or it isn't worth it. If a hater wanted to deny an unambiguous result of this research you could just tell them to do the science. All open access and open source stuff. Sampling materials (especially samples believed to be sacred) would be a real problem, especially when samples had to be destroyed for study... Edited February 2, 2012 by Laudate_Dominum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 So LD do you think he levitated or its just made up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name='Delivery Boy' timestamp='1328159290' post='2379473'] So LD do you think he levitated or its just made up ? [/quote] From my perspective it would be illogical to say that I know he levitated. I've not examined the accounts and cannot say that they are simply made up. I think natural explanations (including pious storytelling) ought to be honestly considered. It might be fun to gather all the available evidence and attempt to apply Bayesian inference. I don't really see how one could make a decisive case for the truth of the accounts. Testimony alone is insufficient to establish something so extraordinary. If there are extant physical artifacts connected with the saint that can be shown to manifest supernatural properties I think this would allow for the serious admission of testimonies regarding the supernatural. Taking faith-based principles such as [i]sensus fidelium[/i] and the charisms of the Church, I think one could ground a certain kind of credulity regarding those stories in the authority of the Church. Thus, I would not say that I know he levitated (epistemic requirements are not satisfied), but I might in a sense believe that he levitated. I actually don't have a position on that at the moment as I'm largely ignorant of its basis, but I wouldn't necessarily charge someone with the sin of illogic if they gave a degree of religious assent to those stories for reasons valid within a religious epistemology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Good points, LD. One certainly must wonder why no one has flown since the advent of cameras and recording equipment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1328162566' post='2379496'] Good points, LD. One certainly must wonder why no one has flown since the advent of cameras and recording equipment... [/quote] Ya that's a good point. The list I seen listed a bunch of saints who levitated. Mabey God doesn't want it recorded who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name='Hubertus' timestamp='1328148397' post='2379347'] Well this St. Joseph did live in the 1600s, before they had cameras. Also it happens on God's time, so if it were to happen to a saint today who knows if you could get a picture or not. Or if anyone would believe it, since we have Photoshop. But it would be pretty razzle dazzle! [/quote] Forgot they didn't have cameras back then...Opps...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandelynmarie Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I think much of it is kept hidden because such a thing can be so disruptive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InPersonaChriste Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name='Hubertus' timestamp='1328128184' post='2379082'] I always think of St. Joseph of Cupertino when I think of levitation. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/SaintJosephCupertino.jpg[/img] People were always havin' to pull 'im down. [/quote] Didn't they give him a squirell or something to help distract him during mass so he wouldn't fly, and then the squirell started to levitate with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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