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Carmelite Sisters of the Sacred Heart of Jesus of Los Angeles

http://www.carmelitesistersocd.com/Events/slide_2012_finalprofession_se_sj.asp

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Carmelite Sisters of the Sacred Heart of Jesus of Los Angeles

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My Sisters!!!

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I like the pic where the parents are kissing her :) Hermanita it seems like you might be in with a group of happy ladies!

(On a sidenote - is the tall headband a distinctive mark of an 'active' sister rather than an enclosed nun? Or was it just to distinguish them visually from the enclosed nuns?)

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brandelynmarie

hermanita, I :love: the song that plays with the slideshow. Do the sisters have a CD of their music for sale by chance?

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[quote name='brandelynmarie' timestamp='1328140470' post='2379219']
hermanita, I :love: the song that plays with the slideshow. Do the sisters have a CD of their music for sale by chance?
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Yes, they have CDs available at this link:

http://www.carmelitesistersocd.com/CarmeliteCDs/music.asp

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[quote name='marigold' timestamp='1328133814' post='2379153']
I like the pic where the parents are kissing her :) Hermanita it seems like you might be in with a group of happy ladies!

(On a sidenote - is the tall headband a distinctive mark of an 'active' sister rather than an enclosed nun? Or was it just to distinguish them visually from the enclosed nuns?)
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Marigold, I can answer this question as I have a friend in that community.

When the community was first formed in Mexico early in the 1900's, (see the history section on their website) they wore the same habit as the Carmelite Nuns in Guadalajara (the usual Carmelite habit). They wore the soft Carmelite toque (white piece around the face), and no starch was used. You can see this in this picture of their foundress, Mother Luisita, on the left and Mother Margarita Maria, the US foundress, on the right..

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When the community first moved to the Los Angeles diocese, they were befrended by the Sisters of the Immaculate Heart, who wore that square style headgear. The sisters adopted that headpiece (as well as a starched version of the toque (white piece under the scapular) as a 'thank you' to those sisters and also to underscore that they were 'active' "American' sisters.

This link shows what the habit of the Immaculate Heart Sisters looked like:

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And this shows the habit the Carmelite Sisters originally adopted:

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After Vatican II they simplified their headgear, using a soft but face-hugging toque and collar, and just a starched piece over the forehead. This shows the current habit:

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A white version of this last habit (including white veil) is worn while doing nursing.

Hope this helps!

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AnneLine, thank you! That's very interesting. I like that they altered their habit as a permanent nod to the people to helped them. :)

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Also, I have heard that at least for a while in order to get a new community approved, your habit had to be distinct from any other community's habits. And as there are a LOT of communities out there, developing a unique habit could be a challenging task! This is why especially with regard to headgear, some habits were so, ummm, creative, and also why there was so much emphasis on being Precisely Exactly Uniform -- because what made your habit YOURS was that this part extended for three inches rather than that community's where that part extends for four inches, etc.

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[quote name='krissylou' timestamp='1328202798' post='2379603']
Also, I have heard that at least for a while in order to get a new community approved, your habit had to be distinct from any other community's habits. And as there are a LOT of communities out there, developing a unique habit could be a challenging task! This is why especially with regard to headgear, some habits were so, ummm, creative, and also why there was so much emphasis on being Precisely Exactly Uniform -- because what made your habit YOURS was that this part extended for three inches rather than that community's where that part extends for four inches, etc.
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I can see the logic behind that. But why do they all have different habits in the first place?

Edit: Ok, I can see the obvious answer - to distinguish the different orders who do different things. But at some point (which I can't pinpoint) habits become / have become? a 'thing' unto themselves. There would never in a million years be the number or length of threads about habits, on an Orthodox forum (not a criticism, just an observation). I think it would be seen as improper for nuns and monks to think overly about what they're wearing, at all. I'm interested to see some RCs' thoughts about this.

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[quote name='marigold' timestamp='1328133814' post='2379153']
I like the pic where the parents are kissing her :) Hermanita it seems like you might be in with a group of happy ladies!
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The community[u] is [/u]a happy place to be, lots of affection and hugging. It's why I was surprised when on some threads on VS people talked about communities where the sisters don't touch or express affection very much. I think St. Teresa and Mother Luisita have a lot to do with the strong family spirit. No sour face saints allowed.

Like I said before, when I found them, I found the kind of woman I hope to be: pray hard, work hard, love hard and laugh often. Also, tamales for Christmas dinner.

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