beatitude Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Private revelation is not something I tend to pay a lot of attention to, or find helpful in my own life. The one significant difference for me involves the apparitions at Lourdes and St Bernadette. I've seen a couple of booklets from 'Direction for Our Times' and to be honest I found them and their contents quite fishy, along with the 'proof' that was offered of their authenticity - the fact that Anne uses different handwriting when she is transcribing messages. The leaflets were given to me by a woman who was very pushy in trying to get me involved in the movement, saying it was essential to the world, which is not in keeping with the Church's own ideas on private revelation. I think her stubborn over-eagerness to get me involved may have prejudiced me against the movement as a whole. She was relentless. I'm happy to wait for the judgement of the bishops on this, although I don't feel particularly interested either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 There is no decision by the bishops. Anne's locutions are under investigation until the time she stops receiving them Her bishop has offered that nothing that has been printed goes against Catholic teaching. (Honestly that is a pretty extraordinary thing for a bishop to do) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) [quote name='beatitude' timestamp='1327150509' post='2372594'] Private revelation is not something I tend to pay a lot of attention to, or find helpful in my own life. The one significant difference for me involves the apparitions at Lourdes and St Bernadette. I've seen a couple of booklets from 'Direction for Our Times' and to be honest I found them and their contents quite fishy, along with the 'proof' that was offered of their authenticity - the fact that Anne uses different handwriting when she is transcribing messages. The leaflets were given to me by a woman who was very pushy in trying to get me involved in the movement, saying it was essential to the world, which is not in keeping with the Church's own ideas on private revelation. I think her stubborn over-eagerness to get me involved may have prejudiced me against the movement as a whole. She was relentless. I'm happy to wait for the judgement of the bishops on this, although I don't feel particularly interested either way. [/quote] It really is up to the individual to make their own decisions when it comes to private revelations. The Church never "pushes" private revelations, but at the same time, there is added significance attached to them, such as you see for the messages of our Lady of Fatima... her messages are soooo important for us at this time in our history! Private revelations can become dangerous, because sadly, people tend to put more importance on them than the Church. For example, using Our Lady of Fatima's messages, you have some groups who have completely placed themselves in opposition to the Vatican, taking her messages and putting them above the authority of the hierarchy...,(we have countless Catholics who don't believe the Consecration to Russia has been made according to Our Lady's wishes.....and with that comes splintered groups and priests getting excommunicated or not able to perform their duties as a priest anymore...) Yet, does that make the messages untrue? No, we know by the authority of the Church, that the messages are worthy of belief. And i agree with you completely, caution needs to be permitted when it comes to private revelations. I respect you for that, as I do not believe many I've come across in my lifetime... In the case of Anne, I was weary a bit at first, but again, if the Justice Dominicans, who have met her and who have a workshop for her in their home find her messages to be fruitful, I trust their judgement... I have read them myself, and I have all the books that have come out, and I find them to be not so different as most books on reflections and meditations that lead us toward God... what surprises me, is that many of Ann's messages hit me right at home... I mean, the topic and the message seem to be answering my own questions and problems and sufferings at the time I read them... God-incidence!! Edited January 21, 2012 by dominicansoul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I feel the same way DS. My SD takes the care of my soul very seriously so I trust him when he has me read something. The books are a wonderful support but they are not the foundation of my faith. That would be the Eucharist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
his_remnant Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='beatitude' timestamp='1327150509' post='2372594'] The leaflets were given to me by a woman who was very pushy in trying to get me involved in the movement, saying it was essential to the world, which is not in keeping with the Church's own ideas on private revelation. I think her stubborn over-eagerness to get me involved may have prejudiced me against the movement as a whole. She was relentless. I'm happy to wait for the judgement of the bishops on this, although I don't feel particularly interested either way. [/quote] that can be a turn off. What helps one won't help another. "Each person is their own universe" A wise Trappist Abbess told me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 This thread is not as offensives as I thought it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides' Jack Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 [quote name='jaime' timestamp='1327100617' post='2372274'] My spiritual director got me a set of her books a few years ago. I have shared them with more than a few people. My opinion of her writing is that she is either completely insane or totally legit. I'm hoping for the latter. [/quote] There is another possibility - that she's under the influence of Satan. Since she does everything through the Bishop, and wants to remain anonymous, that's probably not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandelynmarie Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Satan can imitate humility, but cannot fake obedience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1327270794' post='2373404'] This thread is not as offensives as I thought it would be. [/quote] You're a scamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I've heard that Anne announced she is no longer receiving messages from Our Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 [quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1349837931' post='2491837'] I've heard that Anne announced she is no longer receiving messages from Our Lord. [/quote] That's correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel's angel Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Any orthodox folks I've spoken to (in Ireland) don't take her seriously. We've had a few of these types over the years, and it's usually a money-making scheme (you only have to look at The House of Prayer nonsense). http://catholiclane.com/deception-for-our-times-questioning-anne-a-lay-apostle/ That article is well-wroth a read, especially in relation to the profit she makes from her 'messages'. I don't think she's insane, but I do believe she is very deceptive, and very good at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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