Aloysius Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I found him making fun of Santorum's analogy to the Lord of the Rings pretty funny... I guess it's all in the beholder. if you really just don't get the humor and it's not your style, fine that's one thing, but it annoys me that people try to say he's not funny just because he's making fun of positions they themselves hold, and sometimes making fun of the ridiculous ways some of those positions are advanced (like when Santorum used a LOTR analogy that really didn't fit very well to express the sentiment of "let's fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 [quote name='Aloysius' timestamp='1326413745' post='2367954'] I think all this criticism of Colbert is a bit holier-than-thou. we live in the world, [color=#FF0000][b]he's likely not perfect [/b][/color]but he's not exactly militantly trying to promote immorality. sure maybe he goes to far in his comedy sometimes, and it's likely enough that like the VAST majority of American Catholics, he's not convinced on the doctrine against contraception, but even if he were there really wouldn't be any way for him to oppose it on his comedy show, especially concerning popular opinion would be so far against it, what kind of jokes do you want him to do about it? seriously. [/quote] I'm glad you left yourself some wiggle room here, Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I second whatever Aloysius said. Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 lol sometimes I think L_D might be an alternate screen name I created just to pipe up and agree with me yes, I must always leave wiggle room for the unlikely possibility that Stephen Colbert is, in fact, perfect. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1326416335' post='2367998'] I feel like much of his support comes from people who love MSNBC's prime time and get a smug sense of satisfaction at how stupid (in their view) conservatives are [/quote] That was exactly my impression of the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I know a lot of conservatives who love the show, actually, and are able to poke fun of themselves and liberals at the same time while watching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='Aloysius' timestamp='1326500235' post='2368589'] I know a lot of conservatives who love the show, actually, and are able to poke fun of themselves and liberals at the same time while watching it. [/quote] And some liberals (such as Hasan) don't find the show all that hilarious either. I just don't find it all that funny. Is it possible that people can not find Colbert hilarious or brilliant without it meaning they don't understand the humor or are unable to laugh at themselves. I've seen funny stuff by liberals as well as lame non-political and conservative humor. Humor of any kind is extremely subjective. I "get" Colbert's act; I just don't find it that funny. On another note, I somehow doubt that a show similarly mocking liberals would make in on the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1326501560' post='2368602'] On another note, I somehow doubt that a show similarly mocking liberals would make in on the air. [/quote] [img]http://therecoveringpolitician.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/TheSeanHannityShowLogo.png[/img] [img]http://images.radcity.net/5145/2574332.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1326501560' post='2368602'] And some liberals (such as Hasan) don't find the show all that hilarious either. I just don't find it all that funny. Is it possible that people can not find Colbert hilarious or brilliant without it meaning they don't understand the humor or are unable to laugh at themselves. I've seen funny stuff by liberals as well as lame non-political and conservative humor. Humor of any kind is extremely subjective. I "get" Colbert's act; I just don't find it that funny. On another note, I somehow doubt that a show similarly mocking liberals would make in on the air. [/quote] [quote name='Aloysius' timestamp='1326481715' post='2368415'] I found him making fun of Santorum's analogy to the Lord of the Rings pretty funny... I guess it's all in the beholder. [b]if you really just don't get the humor and it's not your style, fine that's one thing, but it annoys me that people try to say he's not funny just because he's making fun of positions they themselves hold[/b], and sometimes making fun of the ridiculous ways some of those positions are advanced (like when Santorum used a LOTR analogy that really didn't fit very well to express the sentiment of "let's fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here") [/quote] razzle dazzle, I understand if it's just not your style of humor. for comedy shows from the other side, maybe RedEye on Fox News (though I've never seen them really do any kind of witty political satire, just kind of sit around laughing about random news stories haha), it's on overnight. but yeah I don't think the exact model of Stewart and Colbert would be put on TV by republican folks, the market forces just don't exist to make it a successful show... sure there's a large segment of the people that ally themselves with the republicans (and some of them even ally themselves with conservatives!), but I just think it'd be an uphill battle on any network to try to come at the political satire fake news show from that perspective... mostly because you'd probably end up with someone who was trying too hard from the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 ive personally always been a fan of jon stewart, he is pretty amesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithLuin Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='Aloysius' timestamp='1326481715' post='2368415'] I found him making fun of Santorum's analogy to the Lord of the Rings pretty funny... I guess it's all in the beholder. if you really just don't get the humor and it's not your style, fine that's one thing, but it annoys me that people try to say he's not funny just because he's making fun of positions they themselves hold, and sometimes making fun of the ridiculous ways some of those positions are advanced (like when Santorum used a LOTR analogy that really didn't fit very well to express the sentiment of "let's fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here") [/quote] Well, I don't find political satire funny, which is of course part of the problem. But I guess another thing that seemed non-funny to me was the degeneration into nonsense. Jokes that trail off rather than have punch lines are less satisfying to me - I hate the ending of Monty Python's [i]Holy Grail[/i]. Of course Colbert loves LotR, and would jump on any chance to bring it up on his show. I get that. But that doesn't mean I want to watch him play with a cave troll figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrestia Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1326436449' post='2368248'] I think it's great that a Catholic can laugh at his Catholicism. One thing about Muslims is that they don't seem to have any sense of humour about themselves. There are funny things about religion and it's healthy IMO to be able to laugh at the funny things, while still holding sacred those things that are sacred. [/quote] Normal Muslims do have a sense of humor about their religion (by normal I mean my Muslim friends). Like us, they are afraid of the extremists. An extremist Muslim would justified killing a normal Muslim for mocking their faith, no matter how funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1326436449' post='2368248'] I think it's great that a Catholic can laugh at his Catholicism. One thing about Muslims is that they don't seem to have any sense of humour about themselves. [/quote] Hm. Well, this comment seems quite level headed and accurate and not at all a flimsy generalization about roughly one billion people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='MithLuin' timestamp='1326525557' post='2368800'] Jokes that trail off rather than have punch lines are less satisfying to me - I hate the ending of Monty Python's [i]Holy Grail[/i]. [/quote] Everyone hates the ending to [i]Holy Grail[/i]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithLuin Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Well, of course, because it's a let down! But even once you know what it is, so it's not a 'surprise' ending any more, it's still a deeply disappointing one. I also do not find Saturday Night Live to be funny. Granted, I have not watched it that many times. But the few times I did watch it, it was merely...tedious. Parody and satire just don't do much for me. Now....[i]Princess Bride[/i], Mel Brooks....that's funny! Captain Jack Sparrow is funny (not all the time, of course, but often). Clever banter and some slapstick works for me - I find it humorous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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