southern california guy Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) Have you guys seen the new Ron Paul commercial that's being shown in Iowa? [media]http://youtu.be/UMNbH6a_oqg[/media] Edited January 1, 2012 by southern california guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 This ad confuses me. So there are Chinese armies in Texas because Ron Paul loves them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i<3franciscans Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 [quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1325450656' post='2361296'] This ad confuses me. So there are Chinese armies in Texas because Ron Paul loves them? [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I love Ron Paul and he might actually have a chance this time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiiMichael Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 This really does a great job at outlining this aspect of Ron Paul's foreign policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 He always gives some interesting food for thought. And I must give props on the good usage of typography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 It was a little melodramatic for my taste, but I do agree with what was said. It aggravates me that people can possess a selfish nationalism to rationalize us military actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 [quote name='Ice_nine' timestamp='1325480337' post='2361543'] It was a little melodramatic for my taste, but I do agree with what was said. It aggravates me that people can possess a selfish nationalism to rationalize us military actions. [/quote] So we invaded Afghanistan because of US nationalism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southern california guy Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1325480405' post='2361545'] So we invaded Afghanistan because of US nationalism? [/quote] Yeah I think that you argue that we did. Or that at least the US nationalism led to the terrorism -- that led to us invading Afghanistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 [quote name='southern california guy' timestamp='1325482107' post='2361558'] Yeah I think that you argue that we did. Or that at least the US nationalism led to the terrorism -- that led to us invading Afghanistan. [/quote] I don't think there is any basis for that factually. If we could identify the major forces that led to OBL deciding that he wanted to attack the World Trade Centers it would be probably our support for Israel in general and Israel's occupation in Lebanon in particular, and our stationing of troops in Saudi Arabia, which was intended to rebuff a Secular Arab Nationalist regime in Iraq from menacing the region and disrupting world oil supplies. I fail to see how either of these policies were spurred by US nationalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) this ad is AMAZING. if he doesn't get the nomination, he should run third party and SATURATE the airwaves with this ad. do unto other nations as you would have them do unto yours. Edited January 2, 2012 by Aloysius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 [quote name='Aloysius' timestamp='1325494058' post='2361579'] this ad is AMAZING. if he doesn't get the nomination, he should run third party and SATURATE the airwaves with this ad. do unto other nations as you would have them do unto yours. [/quote] Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1325480405' post='2361545'] So we invaded Afghanistan because of US nationalism? [/quote] Nah, but that's what plenty of people use to justify and rationalize immoral actions taken by our military: "It's ok because we're America and we're the good guys so we're only looking out for the best of all mankind. So a few civilian Afghans and Iraqis get killed in the whole debacle, it's merely collateral damage and the good far outweighs the bad." Huge difference from saying these things "caused" military campaigns. This is a fairly common attitude that people take, even religious people (which is more annoying) that has occurred [i]after[/i] we start blowing poo up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides' Jack Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Interesting - I think we're already half-way there. China has its own bases and little cities all over the place, that are actually Chinese operated and don't fall under US jurisdiction. Just one of the prices we pay for all the money they're "loaning" us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 [quote name='fides' Jack' timestamp='1325626497' post='2362447'] Interesting - I think we're already half-way there. China has its own bases and little cities all over the place, that are actually Chinese operated and don't fall under US jurisdiction. Just one of the prices we pay for all the money they're "loaning" us. [/quote]on US soil? say what? I mean, AFAIK, Chinatown isn't operated by the Chinese Gov't' and is indeed within the US's jurisdiction, lol. What exactly are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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