bernadette d Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 If you have the opportunity to listen to The Queen,I hope that, as I did, you will find it wonderful. A great Christian leader not afraid to voice her convictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoylentGreene Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Seriously??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernadette d Posted December 26, 2011 Author Share Posted December 26, 2011 [quote name='SoylentGreene' timestamp='1324877846' post='2357587'] Seriously??? [/quote] Very Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I saw her message (Australia is a commonwealth country after all) and it was very nice. Of course, then we also had to have a message from our Prime Minister and then equal time to the leader of the Opposition. A bit too many messages for me, but I enjoyed the Queen's one best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faithcecelia Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 [quote name='bernadette d' timestamp='1324825753' post='2357362'] If you have the opportunity to listen to The Queen,I hope that, as I did, you will find it wonderful. A great Christian leader not afraid to voice her convictions. [/quote] I agree. I love our Queen and am pleased we now pray for her every day in Mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 the anti Catholic British monarchy can kiss my butt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 [quote name='vee8' timestamp='1324954567' post='2357892'] the anti Catholic British monarchy can kiss my butt [/quote] I'm sure your very 'Christian' sentiment will be well received in the palace and make them all feel very positive about Catholics now! Great evangelising! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I thought the same thing Vee when I first read this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 [quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1324955793' post='2357911'] I thought the same thing Vee when I first read this thread [/quote] 'haters gonna hate' it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 As tens of thousands of Christians flocked to Bethlehem to commemorate Jesus' birthday, the pontiff said the day had become a commercial celebration "whose bright lights hide the mystery of Gods humility, which in turn calls us to humility and simplicity. "Let us ask the Lord to help us see through the superficial glitter of this season, and to discover behind it the child in the stable in Bethlehem, so as to find true joy and true light," the 84-year-old pope told thousands at a mass at Saint Peter's basilica. He also issued a scathing rebuke to "oppressors" and warmongers around the world. He added: "In this time of ours, in this world of ours, cause the oppressors rods, the cloaks rolled in blood and the footgear of battle to be burned, so that your peace may triumph in this world of ours." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AccountDeleted Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I think if two Popes have been making the effort to be conciliatory with our fellow Christians, and the Queen has also made efforts, then we should support their efforts to reconcile. After all, so many changes have happened already with the Anglican Ordinariate that it is not impossible to believe that one day a Catholic may sit on the throne or that both churches may be reunited. Prayer and love will do this though, not intolerance and bigotry. Christians hating Christians is what caused Northern Ireland so much pain and suffering. [quote] [img]http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2010/09/pope-with-the-queen.jpg[/img] Her Majesty the Queen, in common with most of her subjects, has mixed feelings about Popes. She takes very seriously her oath to uphold the Protestant religion. Like her father and grandfather, she is Low Church C of E – she is not keen on vestments or Anglican Communion services that look too much like a Roman Catholic Mass. Her theology is far more Protestant than that of the Archbishop of Canterbury. Dr Williams regards himself as a Catholic, albeit a liberal one from the Anglican, not Roman, branch of the univeral Church. He has a great devotion to the sacraments and the Blessed Virgin Mary. Paradoxically, however, the Queen may share as much ground with the Pope as with her own Archbishop. The supreme governor of the Church of England and the supreme pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church are both octogenarians dismayed by modern immorality. Neither of them thinks that gay unions are compatible with Biblical teaching, as Dr Williams appears to. (You never know quite where you are with +Rowan.) And, although the Queen has never expressed a view on the subject, she is not thought to be a great champion of women priests. Today's meeting undoubtedly reflects a clash of historical traditions and formal theology. But it is also an encounter between two devout, old-fashioned, conservative Christians – and, in that respect, a meeting of minds. [/quote] [quote] [b]1980: Pope welcomes Queen to the Vatican[/b] [size=2]The Queen has made history after becoming the first British monarch to make a state visit to the Vatican. [/size] [img]http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40515000/jpg/_40515419_popequeen1980238.jpg[/img] [size="1"]The Queen wore black in line with Vatican protocol[/size] [img]http://news.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/999999.gif[/img] [img]http://news.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/999999.gif[/img] [img]http://news.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gif[/img] Pope welcomed Her Majesty and the Duke of Edinburgh, for what was described as a "warm and relaxed" encounter. The Queen, dressed in a long black taffeta gown in line with Vatican protocol, arrived with the Duke at the Vatican in the rain at 1100 local time and took the lift up to the second floor. Trumpets sounded and the royal procession moved slowly along the corridor into the Clementine Hall. The Queen and the Duke were welcomed by John Paul II at the door of his private library. [b]The Queen then opened her speech with assurances of sincere friendship and good will.[/b] She invited the Pope to her country in two years' time, but made clear this would not be a state visit but one "to the Roman Catholic community in Great Britain where some four million of my people are members of the Roman Catholic Church. [b]"We support the growing movement of unity between the Christian Churches throughout the world and we pray that your Holiness's visit to Britain may enable us all to see more clearly those truths which both unite and divide us in a new and constructive light."[/b] [b]In reply the Pope welcomed the opportunity of the forthcoming pastoral visit to the UK.[/b] He said: "I render homage to the Christian history of your people, as well as to their cultural achievements. "The ideals of freedom and democracy, anchored in your past remain challenges for every generation of upright citizens in your land." They then held private talks and the Pope presented the Queen with a facsimile of the manuscript of Dante's Divine Comedy with its illustration of the Order of the Garter in the time of Edward IV. In return she offered a book about Windsor Castle by St John Hope and two signed photographs. After the talks, the Queen and Prince Philip walked out into the Clementine Hall and they went on to meet the Pope's Secretary of State, Cardinal Casaroli, at the home of the British Minister to the Holy See, Mark Heath. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernadette d Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 [quote name='vee8' timestamp='1324954567' post='2357892'] the anti Catholic British monarchy can kiss my butt [/quote] I think I have been looking at Phatmass through "rose-coloured glasses" and confess this attitude shocked me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 (edited) [quote name='bernadette d' timestamp='1324978475' post='2358041'] I think I have been looking at Phatmass through "rose-coloured glasses" and confess this attitude shocked me [/quote] I like to think that the voices of a couple with bad attitudes are not representative of the many fine Catholic Christians on here. I hope I am not also looking through rose coloured glasses. I was born in the US and have spent more than half of my life in various countries around the world. Although I am an American and a Catholic, I don't think a lack of respect for other religions and cultures is a good way to represent either one of these identities. Edited December 27, 2011 by nunsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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