Laudate_Dominum Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Amen Missy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus te Amat Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='Mark of the Cross' timestamp='1323834478' post='2350940'] I think therefore I am and I can only think because God made it so. It's the only thing that is 100%. Sense without God, there is non! 100% [/quote] I am not sure that Cartesionism is the foundation on which you want to base your faith... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' timestamp='1323847710' post='2351103'] Amen Missy. [/quote] I am glad to know that you love me too. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin31 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 98.5%. I accept the truths with great confidence as provided unto me by Scripture and Tradition, while still accepting the possibility, however faint, that I might be wrong. However, I have indeed made the choice to proceed through life on the assumption they're indeed true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) 90 percent that percent is only due to the reservation that the way we conceive of God isn't fair enough to say it's 'God' if given the assumption that God is "something" higher, and all that jazz, i'd say it's 99.99999% essentially conceding that there's an extrememly remote possibility that i'm empirically wrong about God, and then even if only theoretically philosophically wrong too, that's also a possibility Edited December 14, 2011 by dairygirl4u2c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='Deus_te_Amat' timestamp='1323848760' post='2351104'] I am not sure that Cartesionism is the foundation on which you want to base your faith... [/quote] I think you mean to say Cartesianism. And I am 100, but i struggle to live my life as to really be 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='MissyP89' timestamp='1323844621' post='2351088'] I don't know for sure that I'm right simply because I haven't died yet. If we could be 100% sure, then it wouldn't be faith. [/quote] What an elegant response! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMcB Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I'll start off with the fact that I can relate to most everything already written. And I'll second that by stating that I am in no way a Church scholar; and to qualify my level of knowledge, I'll admit that "Rediscover Catholicism" is the first Catholic book that I've read in 20 years. (A good place to start, btw). And to answer the question, I have 100% faith in Our Lord existence. Do I make adjustments for the fact that human understanding of Our Lord could be flawed, even as it is taught/written in the Bible? Yes, I do. But in my understanding, there is so much to Our Lord that the Bible is going to fall short in its depiction of Him; regardless of how accurate the translations/interpretations of the Divinely inspired authors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark of the Cross Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='Delivery Boy' timestamp='1323843903' post='2351077'] Only reason I'm 100 is because of some crazy stuff that happened. I didn't meet no angels but it was for sure pretty crazy. [/quote] Me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark of the Cross Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='Deus_te_Amat' timestamp='1323848760' post='2351104'] I am not sure that Cartesionism is the foundation on which you want to base your faith... [/quote] Surely there must be a foundation in which faith is based, or else we will believe whatever seems razzle dazzle. (Fairies, unicorns witches.) I have certain experiences and feelings in life. For example the profound wisdom in the teachings of Christ which eclipse all other. The faith part is where I accept who he says he is and what he promises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Sometimes I have doubts and wonder if God really exists, and I constantly pray for an increase in faith. I don't know the percentage, but I know my goal is 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark of the Cross Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1323899176' post='2351342'] Sometimes I have doubts and wonder if God really exists, and I constantly pray for an increase in faith. I don't know the percentage, [b]but I know my goal is 100%[/b] [/quote] Good point! Faith has to have some margin for error or else there would only be one religion and it would be unified. Your goal will only be achieved when you meet Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark of the Cross Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='MIkolbe' timestamp='1323871148' post='2351139'] I think you mean to say Cartesianism. And I am 100, but i struggle to live my life as to really be 100. [/quote] And I thought You didn't look a day over 30! Is there any particular objection in Catholicism to Cartesianism? I can't see how they could separate the mind/soul/God though, these would have to be on the same 'area' of existence. [quote]Cartesians view the mind as being wholly separate from the corporeal body. Sensation and the perception of reality are thought to be the source of untruth and illusions, with the only reliable truths to be had in the existence of a metaphysical mind. Such a mind can perhaps interact with a physical body, but it does not exist in the body, nor even in the same physical plane as the body. In general the Cartesian divides the world into three areas of existence: that inhabited by the physical body (matter), that inhabited by the mind, and that inhabited by God.[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XIX Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I seem to recall the term "Cartesian Dualism," and I'm pretty sure it's a heresy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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