Jimmy Fallon On His Catholicism

[ardillacid]

In order for someone to be an entertainer, one should be entertaining

[Papist]

[quote name='ardillacid' timestamp='1323277405' post='2346552']
In order for someone to be an entertainer, one should be entertaining
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So true!!!

[Socrates]

[quote] I’m doing too much. I don’t want – there’s Frisbees being thrown, there’s beach balls going around, people waving lighters, and I go, ‘This is too much for me.’ I want the old way. I want to hang out with the, you know, with the nuns, you know, that was my favorite type of Mass, and the grotto, and just like straight up, just [b]Mass[/b] Mass.[/quote]
But I thought turning the mass into a goofy party or rock'n'roll circus was necessary to keep people in church!

[quote name='EmilyAnn' timestamp='1323244740' post='2346325']
I find it weird that he says that you have to hold hands through the whole Mass because that's just plain not true (at least not at any Catholic Church I've heard of). He's either going to the weirdest parish ever (lighters? seriously?) or perhaps being a drama queen
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If this was in L.A. as he says, it's probably not too much of an exaggeration.

[MIKolbe]

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If this was in L.A. as he says, it's probably not too much of an exaggeration.
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no, it is much of an exaggeration. even for LA, or SF, or OC

[dominicansoul]

i think this is just an example of what people get out of the Mass when they don't go deeper than the externals...

[Laudate_Dominum]

A long fallen away Catholic not understanding the scandalous decomposition of the liturgy? Your statement is ironic considering that such hackneyed Masses were so often "justified" in terms of outreach to those of little faith. Anyway, in my experience the gravity and grandeur of authentic liturgy is relevant and genuinely didactic in a way that contrived pop-Masses of the "reform" era cannot be.

[dominicansoul]

I agree, L_D, but taking it from this comedian's point of view, it seems those traditional externals were all he paid attention to, and he totally missed the point of what the Mass is totally about...


It has been tough since, how do you call it, the "decomposition" of the Mass after Vatican II ...and most of us faithful Catholics have had to endure soooo much abuses... but the reason we stay is not because we looooooooove those abuses, it is because we are absolutely in love with Jesus Christ, who is the Center of the Holy Mass, and far above any and all externals....

[KnightofChrist]

Lex Orandi Lex Credendi. Lex Orandi Lex Credendi. Lex Orandi Lex Credendi.

[BigJon16]

I really get what he is talking about. Its an attraction to sacred liturgy. We seem to love the Mass, not just because its worship. What I mean is that we can go to any protestant or non-denom church and "worship", but it wont ever come close to matching the divine attraction to what is the true beauty and glory of worshiping Christ in the true format, that He gave us. This way that we feel about the beauty of The Mass isn't something that any other denomination could feel about their "Sunday services". Its only a Catholic thing, and is a fundamental expression of how God is to be encountered.

Sure, charismatic stuff is great too, but it will never ever come close to the divine closeness of the Mass.

I think this is what Fallon is talking about, even though he might not understand the entirety of it.


The Mass is so beautiful, both the NO, and the EF, and it really grinds my gears when people get "snobbish" about how they thing the EF is "so much better". Yes, the EF may be beautiful, and yes, I realize some Priests don't do what we might think is that great of a job in saying Mass, but The Eucharist is The Eucharist, and that is all that matters. I think people get a little to prideful about being so "conservative", as if that makes them better than anyone else.

Don't let the "mistakes" of the Priest get you down and keep you from having an intimate relationship with Christ, because that is exactly what the Devil wants. The Devil wants you to become distracted, don't let him win.


(This was not meant to be directed at anybody in particular, but I had to get it off my chest.)

[MissyP89]

[quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1323263265' post='2346371']


Oh absolutely! But for people whose faith isn't very deep, the externals do matter. I think that many cradle Catholics just accepted everything as sort of a cultural heritage rather than a choice, and so when things got tough, they didn't have the inner connection to keep help them through. My SIL is like this. She went to 12 years of Catholic schools but now she is very much a cafeteria Catholic who hardly ever attends Mass, but she insists that she is still a Catholic! To her, it is sort of a part of her identity rather than her beliefs.
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[quote name='Papist' timestamp='1323264740' post='2346377']
You just described my sister.
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[quote name='savvy' timestamp='1323274499' post='2346507']
And my brother too!
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Heck, she's describing [i]me[/i], four years ago. God is so good!

[quote name='BigJon16' timestamp='1323309855' post='2347041']
I really get what he is talking about. Its an attraction to sacred liturgy. We seem to love the Mass, not just because its worship. What I mean is that we can go to any protestant or non-denom church and "worship", but it wont ever come close to matching the divine attraction to what is the true beauty and glory of worshiping Christ in the true format, that He gave us. This way that we feel about the beauty of The Mass isn't something that any other denomination could feel about their "Sunday services". Its only a Catholic thing, and is a fundamental expression of how God is to be encountered.

Sure, charismatic stuff is great too, but it will never ever come close to the divine closeness of the Mass.

I think this is what Fallon is talking about, even though he might not understand the entirety of it.


The Mass is so beautiful, both the NO, and the EF, and it really grinds my gears when people get "snobbish" about how they thing the EF is "so much better". Yes, the EF may be beautiful, and yes, I realize some Priests don't do what we might think is that great of a job in saying Mass, but The Eucharist is The Eucharist, and that is all that matters. I think people get a little to prideful about being so "conservative", as if that makes them better than anyone else.

Don't let the "mistakes" of the Priest get you down and keep you from having an intimate relationship with Christ, because that is exactly what the Devil wants. The Devil wants you to become distracted, don't let him win.


(This was not meant to be directed at anybody in particular, but I had to get it off my chest.)



[/quote]

Can we be best friends?

At the end of the day, it's the Eucharist that has and will always draw people back, even if they don't understand why. I got saved Protestant-style in 2006 and spent a good while all over the Christian map, trying to find a denomination that "fit me." But all of it felt so empty. I wasn't sure what exactly I was looking for then, but I didn't feel [i]God [/i]in any of those places.

About a year before my reversion (I was raised Catholic, sort of), I wrote in my journal that I kept feeling these strong urges to try something more traditional. "It doesn't make any sense, but I keep feeling called to liturgy."

Once I matured, I realized those feelings were the recognition that what I really wanted and needed was the Real Presence of Christ. And when I went to Mass for the first time in years, truly wanting to be there, it completely rocked me because I [i]knew [/i]He was there.

It's a beautiful, precious thing ... and uniquely Catholic. Like it or not, no one else has what we do.

I wonder if what Fallon feels is the same thing. He knows where to find Christ, but the circuses he's seeing at church causes a huge disconnect.

[Seven77]

Fascinating… the guy is getting nostalgic for a reverent Catholic Liturgy but is he really looking for it? And if he did find it, would he embrace it and go to church every Sunday? I mean does he really think that all Catholic parishes have pool parties in the pews? Only God knows.

It just seems like he is missing something that he never knew about before and/or simply likes to make excuses that soud nice.

Also it is good to note that there are so many lapsed Catholics who love the smell of incense and the sound of bells at Christmas and Easter--so what? You can love the pretty paints and yet still miss the picture.

[MissyP89]

[quote name='Seven77' timestamp='1323311921' post='2347089']
It just seems like he is missing something that he never knew about before and/or simply likes to make excuses that sound nice.[/quote]

Maybe he is making excuses. I don't know. But let's face it, accepting the whole Truth of the Church is tough. It can be scary. Fallon's human, like the rest of us.

[dominicansoul]

I'm shawked that he seemed to attend more reverent Masses and STILL managed to leave? I thought that was impossible?


In his case, "Lex Orandi" did nothing for his "Lex Credendi"

[KenW]

Is there not even a single traditional Latin Mass in LA that this poor boy can go to?!?!

[Luigi]

[quote name='MissyP89' timestamp='1323311565' post='2347081']


I wonder if what Fallon feels is the same thing. He knows where to find Christ, but the circuses he's seeing at church causes a huge disconnect.
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Somebody get him on board -call it a Pop Inquisition - inquiring minds want to know what he really thinks, not just what he said to keep Terry Gross amused on Fresh Air.

Somebody on this board must have connections to him, don't they - six degrees of separation and all that? Let's get him on here in the Chat Room!