Sarah147 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 "[i]Pope Benedict XVI voiced support Wednesday for political actions around the world aimed at eliminating the death penalty, reflecting his stance as an opponent of capital punishment. He made the comments during his weekly public audience to participants at a meeting being promoted by the Catholic Sant'Egidio Community on the theme "No Justice without Life.[/i]" [url="http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/pope-seeks-end-death-penalty-15056658#.TteRv9U7Isk"]Read more[/url] I just came across this on Catholic Answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I'm glad the Holy Father is speaking out on this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Waits for the inevitable responses from certain catholics about how the Pope's opinion is both not dogma and wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 [quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1323136348' post='2345239'] Waits for the inevitable responses from certain catholics about how the Pope's opinion is both not dogma and wrong. [/quote] Who certain catholics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1323138574' post='2345268'] Who certain catholics? [/quote] were you around for the last big thread on the Death Penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Good. I think it's about time we ended the death penalty in first-world nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I hope he has better luck than John Paul II had with the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthephysicist Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I hope so too. It's often easy for me to overlook the death penalty when I think about what I can do to spread a culture of life. It's good to have reminders like this from our Church leaders. Prayers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Doesn't the Pope know that the power to execute criminals has been given to the state by God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 (edited) I never understood the need for the death penalty in a society that can construct brick building with steel doors. Edited December 6, 2011 by Papist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 [quote name='MIkolbe' timestamp='1323169632' post='2345416'] Doesn't the Pope know that the power to execute criminals has been given to the state by God? [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 VIVA LA PAPA!!! I love my Holy Father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) [size=4][b]Catechism of the Council of Trent[/b][/size] The power of life and death is permitted to certain civil magistrates because theirs is the responsibility under law to punish the guilty and protect the innocent. Far from being guilty of breaking this commandment [Thy shall not kill], such an execution of justice is precisely an act of obedience to it. For the purpose of the law is to protect and foster human life. This purpose is fulfilled when the legitimate authority of the State is exercised by taking the guilty lives of those who have taken innocent lives. In the Psalms we find a vindication of this right: “Morning by morning I will destroy all the wicked in the land, cutting off all evildoers from the city of the Lord” (Ps. 101:8). [right][size=2][size=3]([i]Roman Catechism of the Council of Trent[/i], 1566, Part III, 5, n. 4[/size])[/size][/right] Edited December 7, 2011 by Socrates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixpence Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 As a Christian, I am all forgiveness and whatnot.... but I do not really expect the government to be Christian with that whole "separation of Church and State" thingy... I am satisfied/surprised when the government runs things by Old Testament standards (ex. capital punishment if guilty of something very serious). On the other hand, do we really need to kill them now-a-days? I dunno? Probably not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 In terms of subjective values I think that killing people is disgraceful, no matter how defective the victim. Rehabilitation and containment are interesting. As a practical and sociological question I suspect that institutionalized people slaying is not so healthy for a society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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